[Tortured Soul]

According to PFT, Mayock's top five by position is scrolling across the bottom of NFL Network. Can someone who has the channel post some positions, like OT and QB?

[DarthICE]

QB is Bradford

[Pete]

DarthICE, on Feb 8 2010, 10:33 PM, said:

QB is Bradford

what about the other 119?

[CarolinaBill]

1: mccoy OKLA
2: suh NEB
3: odrick PENN ST
4: dan williams UT
5: brian Price UCLA

[Estro]

McCoy and Suh could very well be #1 and #2 in the draft overall. There was a poster last week who was irate over the fact that Nolan Nawrocki could have McCoy going ahead of Suh in his 1st mock draft. Looks like Mayock, at this point, has the two of them graded the same way. I put stock in these 2 guys predicitons because they have a pulse on what the scouts are saying, which is what is most important on draft day.

[Mr. ChumChums]

For the DT's, Terrence Cody is way down on the list. A possible (and better) option for the 3-4 NT would be Dan Williams from Tennessee. Also, Jared Odrick from Penn State as a 5-technique is a possibility. Would we be able to get away with not having that dominant NT if we have 2 dominant 5-techniques in Stroud and Odrick (or another 5-technique DE)?

Just a thought.

[reddogblitz]

If I'm making first pick, I take Suh. No question.

[R. Rich]

CarolinaBill, on Feb 8 2010, 10:46 PM, said:

1: mccoy OKLA
2: suh NEB
3: odrick PENN ST
4: dan williams UT
5: brian Price UCLA

Hmm...@ a quick glance, this looks like a possible list of the top senior players, regardless of position. The absence of underclassmen like Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Dez Bryant is a dead giveaway.

[NobesBLO13]

Why can't the draft be tomorrow????

[John from Hemet]

To me all this means is that Terrance Cody could be there for us in the 2nd and solve our NT problem......

To me the dream scenario would be the possibility of trading down from 9.....still grab Bulaga....pick up an additional 2nd rounder......pick up Terrance Cody and a good 3-4 linebacker in the 2nd round......and grabbing a QB in the 3rd round.

[Bob in STL]

John from Hemet, on Feb 9 2010, 12:45 AM, said:

To me all this means is that Terrance Cody could be there for us in the 2nd and solve our NT problem......

To me the dream scenario would be the possibility of trading down from 9.....still grab Bulaga....pick up an additional 2nd rounder......pick up Terrance Cody and a good 3-4 linebacker in the 2nd round......and grabbing a QB in the 3rd round.

That is a nice trade-down scenario.

Nothing against cody but I doubt he solves our NT problem. Most rookie tackles take time to develop. If we are serious about the 3-4 we better pick up a decent veteran NT and use Cody to spell him and learn the the Pro Game.

[CarolinaBill]

If thomas can play all 4 spots on a DL, he should be a pickup for us to put on the edge, who knows, maybe we take 2 dts in this draft

[NewEra]

R. Rich, on Feb 9 2010, 12:21 AM, said:

Hmm...@ a quick glance, this looks like a possible list of the top senior players, regardless of position. The absence of underclassmen like Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Dez Bryant is a dead giveaway.

all DT's

[PromoTheRobot]

NobesBLO13, on Feb 9 2010, 12:27 AM, said:

Why can't the draft be tomorrow????

Well the combine hasn't happened yet. Not that we need that to know who is any good.

PTR

[Steely Dan]

This is from April 28, 2009 but it's still interesting: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_...?urn=nfl,159517

1. Mike Mayock, NFL Network: 10/32
2. Mel Kiper, ESPN: 8.5/32
2. The Big Lead: 8.5/32
2. National Football Post: 8.5/32
5. Rick Gosselin, Dallas Morning News: 8/32
6. Don Banks, Sports Illustrated: 7/32
6. San Diego Union-Tribune: 7/32
6. Shawn Zobel, DraftHeadquarters.com: 7/32
9. Todd McShay: 6/32
10. Peter King, Sports Illustrated: 5.5/32

So there you have it. Mike Mayock is the mack daddy of mock drafting.

I'd make the following argument, though: It is entirely unreasonable to judge a guy like Mayock, Kiper or McShay on how many they got right in their mock draft. There are 32 teams in the NFL, zero of them trust those three guys enough to consistently tell them the truth about whom they're drafting, and most of the teams are constantly peppering those guys with things that are deliberately untrue. It's not their job to get a mock draft "right."

http://www.nfl.com/seniorbowl/story?id=090...mp;confirm=true

These rankings are from two weeks ago:

Additional info, such as type of system and height and weight come from http://walterfootbal...draft2010QB.php

Quarterbacks

1 Sam Bradford* Oklahoma Height: 6-4. Weight: 214
2 Jimmy Clausen* Notre Dame Height: 6-3. Weight: 217
3 Colt McCoy Texas Height: 6-2. Weight: 210
4 Tim Tebow Florida Height: 6-3. Weight: 236
5t Dan LeFevour Central Michigan Height: 6-3. Weight: 229
5t Tony Pike Cincinnati Height: 6-6. Weight: 212

Running backs

1 C.J. Spiller Clemson Height: 5-11. Weight: 195
2 Ryan Matthews* Fresno State Height: 5-11. Weight: 220
3 Jahvid Best* California Height: 5-10. Weight: 195
4 Dexter McCluster Mississippi Height 5-9 Weight: 170
5t Joe McKnight* Southern California Height: 6-0. Weight: 200
5t Jonathan Dwyer* Georgia Tech Height: 6-0. Weight: 235

Wide receivers

1 Dez Bryant* Oklahoma State Height: 6-2. Weight: 210
2 Golden Tate* Notre Dame Height: 5-11. Weight: 195
3 Arrelious Benn* Illinois Height: 6-2. Weight: 214
4 Demaryius Thomas* Georgia Tech Height: 6-3. Weight: 229
5 Mardy Gilyard Cincinnati Height: 6-0. Weight: 179

Tight ends

1 Jermaine Gresham* Oklahoma Height: 6-6. Weight: 260
2 Rob Gronkowski* Arizona Height: 6-6. Weight: 260
3 Dennis Pitta BYU Height: 6-5. Weight: 247
4 Aaron Hernandez* Florida Height: 6-3. Weight: 250
5t Ed Dickson Oregon Height: 6-4. Weight: 244
5t Anthony McCoy Southern California Height: 6-5. Weight: 249

Interior linemen (guards, centers)

1 Mike Iupati Idaho Height: 6-5. Weight: 325
2 Maurkice Pouncey* Florida Height: 6-5. Weight: 318 (Center)
3 Jon Asamoah Illinois Height: 6-4. Weight: 300
4 Rodger Saffold Indiana Height 6-5 Weight: 318 (OT projected inside)
5 Zane Beadles Utah Height: 6-4. Weight: 307 (OT projected inside)

Offensive tackles

1 Russell Okung Oklahoma State Height: 6-5. Weight: 305
2 Bryan Bulaga* Iowa Height: 6-6. Weight: 312
3 Anthony Davis* Rutgers Height: 6-6. Weight: 325
4 Trent Williams Oklahoma Height: 6-5. Weight: 315
5 Vladimir Ducasse Massachusetts Height: 6-5 Weight: 330 (played both G and Right OT)

Defensive ends

1 Jason Pierre-Paul* South Florida Height: 6-6. Weight: 263 (viewed as a 4-3 guy)
2 Derrick Morgan* Georgia Tech Height: 6-4. Weight: 235 (4-3 guy)
3 Carlos Dunlap* Florida Height: 6-6. Weight: 280 (4-3 guy)
4 Everson Griffen* Southern California Height: 6-3. Weight: 280 (4-3 guy)
5 Brandon Graham Michigan Height: 6-1. Weight: 263 (4-3 guy)

Defensive tackles

1 Gerald McCoy* Oklahoma Height: 6-4. Weight: 295 (works for 4-3 or 3-4)
2 Ndamukong Suh Nebraska Height: 6-4. Weight: 305 (works for 4-3 or 3-4)
3 Jared Odrick Penn State Height: 6-5. Weight: 301 (no system info.)
4 Dan Williams Tennessee Height: 6-2. Weight: 329 (3-4 nose tackle)
5 Lamarr Houston Texas Height: 6-3. Weight: 302 (no system info.)

Inside linebackers

1 Rolando McClain* Alabama Height: 6-4. Weight: 256 (3-4 experience)
2 Brandon Spikes Florida Height: 6-3. Weight: 256 (no system info.)
3 Sean Lee Penn State Height: 6-2. Weight: 236 (no system info.)
4 Pat Angerer Iowa Height: 6-1. Weight: 235 (4-3 middle linebacker, Gotta love the name. :thumbsup: )
5 Darryl Sharpton Miami (Fla.) Height: 6-0. Weight: 229 (no system info.)

Outside linebackers

1 Sergio Kindle Texas Height: 6-4. Weight: 254 (3-4)
2 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri Height: 6-1. Weight: 241 (4-3)
3 Daryl Washington TCU Height: 6-foot-3 Weight: 233 pounds (no system info.)
4 Jerry Hughes TCU Height: 6-2. Weight: 258 (3-4)
5 Eric Norwood South Carolina Height: 6-1. Weight: 246 (3-4)

Cornerbacks

1 Joe Haden* Florida Height: 5-11. Weight: 190
2 Kyle Wilson Boise State Height: 5-10. Weight: 190
3 Perrish Cox Oklahoma State Height: 5-11. Weight: 189
4 Patrick Robinson Florida State Height: 5-11. Weight: 190
5 Devin McCourty Rutgers Height: 5-11. Weight: 186

Safeties

1 Eric Berry* Tennessee Height: 6-0. Weight: 195
2 Taylor Mays Southern California Height: 6-3. Weight: 231
3 Earl Thomas* Texas Height: 5-10. Weight: 195
4 Larry Asante Nebraska Height: 6-0. Weight: 211
5 Chad Jones* LSU Height: 6-3. Weight: 220

[runner]

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Inside linebackers

1 Rolando McClain* Alabama Height: 6-4. Weight: 256 (3-4 experience)
2 Brandon Spikes Florida Height: 6-3. Weight: 256 (no system info.)
3 Sean Lee Penn State Height: 6-2. Weight: 236 (no system info.)
4 Pat Angerer Iowa Height: 6-1. Weight: 235 (4-3 middle linebacker, Gotta love the name. :thumbsup: )
5 Darryl Sharpton Miami (Fla.) Height: 6-0. Weight: 229 (no system info.)

Angerer is a player. Every game this year he was all over the field, and he can really hit. And yes, it's an AWESOME name!

[Offsides Number 76]

Gronkowski the number 2 tight end? Cool. He's a local kid (Williamsville, I think).

[Thoner7]

As far as LBers go, Ill take Brandon Graham thank you very much. (he is listed as a de). If its our second round pick Id take him over Cody thats for sure. Eric Norwood could be a late round steal too. Norwood is the type of player you could trade Schobel for, ie Schobel for 4th rounder, use that pick on Norwood.

If I am the Bills I bet the farm on Wilfork and put the NT problem to bed.

[JohnC]

John from Hemet, on Feb 9 2010, 01:45 AM, said:

To me all this means is that Terrance Cody could be there for us in the 2nd and solve our NT problem......

To me the dream scenario would be the possibility of trading down from 9.....still grab Bulaga....pick up an additional 2nd rounder......pick up Terrance Cody and a good 3-4 linebacker in the 2nd round......and grabbing a QB in the 3rd round.

If Cody doesn't have the self discipline to stay in "reasonable" shape when his livelilhood and millions of dollars are at stake then how much motivation do you think he will have when he has signed a contract. No one doubts that he is an exceptional athlete when he is in shape. But he brings back memories of Mike Williams who lost his motivation and will to play when he was with us.

In addition, I don't trust a player whose man tits are competitive with Dolly Parson's girls tits.

[JohnC]

runner, on Feb 9 2010, 08:44 AM, said:

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Inside linebackers

1 Rolando McClain* Alabama Height: 6-4. Weight: 256 (3-4 experience)
2 Brandon Spikes Florida Height: 6-3. Weight: 256 (no system info.)
3 Sean Lee Penn State Height: 6-2. Weight: 236 (no system info.)
4 Pat Angerer Iowa Height: 6-1. Weight: 235 (4-3 middle linebacker, Gotta love the name. :w00t: )
5 Darryl Sharpton Miami (Fla.) Height: 6-0. Weight: 229 (no system info.)

Angerer is a player. Every game this year he was all over the field, and he can really hit. And yes, it's an AWESOME name!

I have seen Pat Angerer a few times on tV. He reminds me of Zack Thomas. His measurables might not be impressive but when you see him play he is always on the ball. He simply is a very good football player.