With the depth in the draft....
#1
Posted 11 March 2010 - 06:35 PM
This is a very deep draft in regards to OT's. From my understanding, there are guys that can be had in the 2nd-5th round that could very easily start.
We are keeping Kelsay. Schobel pry won't retire. That gives us Mitchell and Poz in the middle, with those other guys, Ellison, Maybin, and Harris as OLB's. Not really the need many people think.
Then, there is DT. Which, there isn't really a DT worthy of the number 9 pick.
With all that being said, can you really pass on Clausen if he is there at 9? At the end of the day, we need a QB and he is a legit prospect. He is as legit as we are going to see. If he were to fall flat on his face, could you really blame the FO?
If Clausen is there, I think we have to take him and have picks 2-4 be on OT and DT and use the rest of the pics for depth.
#2
Posted 11 March 2010 - 06:51 PM
Virgil1528, on Mar 11 2010, 06:35 PM, said:
This is a very deep draft in regards to OT's. From my understanding, there are guys that can be had in the 2nd-5th round that could very easily start.
We are keeping Kelsay. Schobel pry won't retire. That gives us Mitchell and Poz in the middle, with those other guys, Ellison, Maybin, and Harris as OLB's. Not really the need many people think.
Then, there is DT. Which, there isn't really a DT worthy of the number 9 pick.
With all that being said, can you really pass on Clausen if he is there at 9? At the end of the day, we need a QB and he is a legit prospect. He is as legit as we are going to see. If he were to fall flat on his face, could you really blame the FO?
If Clausen is there, I think we have to take him and have picks 2-4 be on OT and DT and use the rest of the pics for depth.
I am not going to bother telling you how little you know about the 3-4. Google it but I will tell you your way off.
#3
Posted 11 March 2010 - 06:55 PM
#5
Posted 11 March 2010 - 07:31 PM
Virgil1528, on Mar 11 2010, 06:35 PM, said:
I'm sorry but that's just horrifying. Only OT is in worse shape.
#6
Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:45 PM
manbeast, on Mar 11 2010, 06:51 PM, said:
Awww, you're making me blush
Simon, on Mar 11 2010, 07:31 PM, said:
While I don't disagree, I just can't see us paying these guys the money they committed and putting them on the bench. They can't play DE in the 3-4, so they have to play OLB. I can't imagine Poz or Mitchell losing their starting jobs. The only thing I could see would be if they planned to move Mitchell to OLB, but I think I remember them saying they he would go to the inside.
If they do plan on benching Schobel or Kelsay as backups, then that is pathetic the amount of money they are getting.
#7
Posted 11 March 2010 - 09:34 PM
Virgil1528, on Mar 11 2010, 09:45 PM, said:
While I don't disagree, I just can't see us paying these guys the money they committed and putting them on the bench. They can't play DE in the 3-4, so they have to play OLB. I can't imagine Poz or Mitchell losing their starting jobs. The only thing I could see would be if they planned to move Mitchell to OLB, but I think I remember them saying they he would go to the inside.
If they do plan on benching Schobel or Kelsay as backups, then that is pathetic the amount of money they are getting.
Kelsay, Maybin, and Schobel will all play OLB with Poz and Mitchel in the middle. Ellison will backup with maybe Harris but I really look for some trades for Ellison and Harris.
#9
Posted 11 March 2010 - 09:45 PM
#10
Posted 11 March 2010 - 09:49 PM
#14
Posted 12 March 2010 - 03:43 AM
Virgil1528, on Mar 11 2010, 06:35 PM, said:
This is a very deep draft in regards to OT's. From my understanding, there are guys that can be had in the 2nd-5th round that could very easily start.
We are keeping Kelsay. Schobel pry won't retire. That gives us Mitchell and Poz in the middle, with those other guys, Ellison, Maybin, and Harris as OLB's. Not really the need many people think.
Then, there is DT. Which, there isn't really a DT worthy of the number 9 pick.
With all that being said, can you really pass on Clausen if he is there at 9? At the end of the day, we need a QB and he is a legit prospect. He is as legit as we are going to see. If he were to fall flat on his face, could you really blame the FO?
If Clausen is there, I think we have to take him and have picks 2-4 be on OT and DT and use the rest of the pics for depth.
I agree that we should draft Clausen if he's there, or Bradford for that matter.
But I disagree with you on our LB situation. Just because you have a bunch of guys who have LB in front of their names on the roster doesn't mean you actually have good LBs. IMHO we have two legit 3 - 4 LBs, Poz and Mitchell. After that, they're either too small to play strongside OLB and not fast enough to play weakside rush LB (Ellison and Harris), or totally inexperienced and unproven at the position and may simply not be able to play it (Schobel, if he doesn't retire, and Kelsay and Maybin). We need help there. But Nix and the gang know it.
#16
Posted 12 March 2010 - 07:37 AM
Virgil1528, on Mar 11 2010, 07:35 PM, said:
This is a very deep draft in regards to OT's. From my understanding, there are guys that can be had in the 2nd-5th round that could very easily start.
We are keeping Kelsay. Schobel pry won't retire. That gives us Mitchell and Poz in the middle, with those other guys, Ellison, Maybin, and Harris as OLB's. Not really the need many people think.
Then, there is DT. Which, there isn't really a DT worthy of the number 9 pick.
With all that being said, can you really pass on Clausen if he is there at 9? At the end of the day, we need a QB and he is a legit prospect. He is as legit as we are going to see. If he were to fall flat on his face, could you really blame the FO?
If Clausen is there, I think we have to take him and have picks 2-4 be on OT and DT and use the rest of the pics for depth.
Based on your depth analysis it would make since to trade down and pick up extra picks and draft a skill position.
Something tells me that what Nix is thinking which could be why you see them interviewing CJ Spiller. We have so many needs that we need to generate more picks. This would be the perfect time to move down.
#17
Posted 12 March 2010 - 01:53 PM
#18
Posted 12 March 2010 - 02:21 PM
Va Bills, on Mar 12 2010, 08:37 AM, said:
Something tells me that what Nix is thinking which could be why you see them interviewing CJ Spiller. We have so many needs that we need to generate more picks. This would be the perfect time to move down.
Agree that Nix will be looking to pick up more picks. I think they should trade down out of 9 if possible and pick up an
extra 2nd rounder. Do that and a skill guy is definitely in play be it a Spiller or Best or QB. Then DT and LT in round 2.
#19
Posted 12 March 2010 - 03:18 PM
purple haze, on Mar 12 2010, 03:21 PM, said:
extra 2nd rounder. Do that and a skill guy is definitely in play be it a Spiller or Best or QB. Then DT and LT in round 2.
Trading down in the first round is a good idea, with the strategy to gain more picks on the first day. The Bills have been in a youth movement for years now, and have lost some games because of too many stupid mistakes made by young players, compounded by having too many of them in the game. With a draft class that has very few potential superstars but several very good players (according to the experts), we should forego the #9 spot and trade away some of our second day draft picks to get more in the second or third round. We do not need 10 new draftees on the team. We need four or five that will actually be contributors, along with the several young guys already on the squad.
Assuming the team drafts well, they will be better served with around #20 in the first and two each in the second and third rounds. After that its throwing darts hoping to get lucky. There's never any guaranteed picks, but five on the first day would be a chance to dramtically improve the roster.
#20
Posted 12 March 2010 - 06:11 PM
All I'm saying is, I can't imagine them not starting with the money we've committed to paying them.
If i'm in charge, they are both gone, and hopefully for picks. Then I would pry trade back and get McClain and a DT with my first 2 picks, then OT's.

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