Chef Jim, on 24 May 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:
I'm sorry I didn't know you've lived here for over 30 years. I just mistook someone who....
1 Says North Beach was halfway through town
2. Goes anywhere near Van Ness
3. I a Bills fan who has never been to North Star
.......as a tourist. But then again someone who lives in the Outside Lands is pretty much a tourist.
But then again I said Candlestick was 20 miles from North Beach.
Oh and first if you're leaving North Star it will take you 30 to get to your car seeing you'll have to park at Fisherman's Wharf. It will take you another 20 minutes to get to Van Ness from North Beach on a Sunday. Then 20 minutes to get to the 101 then another 45 to get to the parking lot of Candlestick. So yeah it is a bitch to get from North Beach to Candlestick on a Sunday game day.
My main point however was if you had tickets to the game why on earth would you go to North Star that morning? Head to the stadium and start the tailgate early. Do North Star and North Beach Saturday night.
Look man since you absolutely refuse to let this go I will explain one last time. I usually don't get into grudge matches in a town and area I have lived in over half my life. Over some ego related stuff I just don't care about.
I have no idea why one would park at the wharf. Since that is not even in North Beach? Is that where your bar is? I never said nor do I have a interest in going to a game in a friggin bus. As for fandom and why don't I hang there. I don't need to. I have a lot of friends from Buffalo who have never heard of it and have no plans to go to a Bills bar. Besides our families and ourselves we are content with our small crown of 20 or so. I am not a kid needing to hang at a Bills Bar. I do know where all Bills fans sat during the 9ers, and Bills super bowl years.That's where we will sit I met a lot of fans from Buffalo, I meet them at games too.I have not missed a Bills 9ers game or raiders game here since 79. Including my first in 80 (I think) when a rookie named Montana could not pull out a comeback win in the rain at the end of the game.
As for North Beach: I go to Tosca, Vesuvios (a Lot) and many of the dives on Green street. I know a lot of artists in those places. We go to Tosca a lot because tourists rarely spend time there. We like that. Very interesting people.This is the heart of North Beach. As for parking I never have problems, maybe I know the area a little better. Now from Green and Columbus or Broadway and Columbus its a 5 minute ride to 101 or as you newbies call Vann Ness Blvd. proceed south for a few blocks and you are at Van Ness and Geary which is easily half way through the huge megalopolis they call San Francisco. Taking the right parallel street to Van Ness and having the lights timed in your favor that's another whopping 10 minutes to the freeway. I can get to the stick in just over a hour from Petaluma so calling the ride from NB a Bitch is probably true if you have no experience doing it. And parking in the wharf, which locals avoid like the plague is just crazy except for drinking in the Buena Vista late at night.Again you have to know where to park.
If you re read my original post. I actually commented I have never met a Bills fan in North Beach partying the night before a game. I said since I don't know where this bar is nor do I care(actually I never heard of it but we stay away from touristy places)maybe that's why. Just a simple statement. I also mentioned during the FIVE 49er super bowl victories North Beach after the game is/was where the locals go to celebrate in mass. Thousands of them. Probably because its centrally located in SF and a cool area if you know where to go. Good times, free food in some places and have a beer or 2 in the street with the cops. I never had a chance YET to be in B-Lo after a super bowl win so the NB experience has to do for now.
We don't tailgate at the Shittstick anymore, its not the same as years ago. We get there (BTW we don't even park in a 9ers lot) go in and watch warm-ups then the game. Tailgating is safe there and you can eat Brie cheese and drink good wine with the yuppies & metros there as long as the sun is out. Oakland is 10X worse why anyone from Buffalo would get tix in the black hole is beyond me. Wear a opposing jersey and you are flat out asking for it. Flat out dangerous if you got a wife and grand kids to even go to the game much less sit in that crap hole.Last Bills game there we sat at the 50 13 rows up, and behind the Bills bench. I have witnessed younger guys in Bills attire get their asses kicked in the cheap lots away from the cops. That's if the opposing team wins or loses.
So I guess you can get your map out again and prove me wrong. Like I said enjoy the game and your time at a Bills bar if that's your thing. For this Bills game it's guys only with our crowd so we won't get home till late after hitting North Beach for pizza and beer. There are a lot of ex-Buffalo people in the Bay area. Not one I know goes to a Bills bar. That's just us I guess.