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#161 dogma+

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 10:46 AM

View Postsection122, on 03 May 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

If it is after tc Mario most certainly will have a number, and all of the people who pre-ordered his jersey will have that number on their jersey.  The stock would be huge.  The cost would go beyond financial though bc many (rightfully so) would be up in arms about their brand new jersey being obsolete.

The scenario you're describing is only if they changed numbers AFTER training camp. Which is why the FO told Kelsay and Mario to figure out the number thing now.

As far as leaders being cut, I can think of a few from the top of my head just from last season. Peyton Manning, Lofa Tatupa, Channing Crowder, and our very own Nick Barnett. Locker room leaders are cut all the time.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 10:56 AM

View Postdogma+, on 03 May 2012 - 10:46 AM, said:

The scenario you're describing is only if they changed numbers AFTER training camp. Which is why the FO told Kelsay and Mario to figure out the number thing now.

As far as leaders being cut, I can think of a few from the top of my head just from last season. Peyton Manning, Lofa Tatupa, Channing Crowder, and our very own Nick Barnett. Locker room leaders are cut all the time.
You're leaving something out of your analysis on this issue: Mario doesn't want the number. He has had plenty of time to ask Kelsay about it and Kelsay says he spoke with Mario and Mario never said a word. Williams has gone way out of his way to say he doesn't want special treatment, he just wants to be one of the guys and lead by example of his work ethic. He is humble. 90 was not his college number. For all we know, he never liked 90. He is starting his career over in a new city and new team and he is the antithesis of a me-first player who wants to promote his power or standing, except on the field. Kelsay is a 10 year veteran.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 11:00 AM

View PostKelly the Dog, on 03 May 2012 - 10:56 AM, said:

You're leaving something out of your analysis on this issue: Mario doesn't want the number.

You're absolutely right. Im just having a discussion of principles at this point. More fun than mowing the lawn :) .

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 11:01 AM

View Postrstencel, on 02 May 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

I would add Fred Jackson to the exception list as well.
I would add Jaruis Byrd to the exception list as well.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 11:06 AM

View Postdogma+, on 03 May 2012 - 10:46 AM, said:

The scenario you're describing is only if they changed numbers AFTER training camp. Which is why the FO told Kelsay and Mario to figure out the number thing now.

As far as leaders being cut, I can think of a few from the top of my head just from last season. Peyton Manning, Lofa Tatupa, Channing Crowder, and our very own Nick Barnett. Locker room leaders are cut all the time.
To help you avoid your lawn for a bit more...
The scenario I laid out was because you had mentioned Kelsay would be cut after tc and Mario would take the number then.
As for your list all of those players were cut/released/not re-signed at the end of the year, not after tc.  That would certainly send shock waves through the team.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 11:19 AM

Too much is made of jersey numbers- they are there for identification purposes, not to make a player walk around with a smile on his face. Assign players numbers on a seasonal basis and that's it.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 11:32 AM

View PostLVBillsBackr, on 02 May 2012 - 06:51 AM, said:

"I would just like to finish my career with the number 90 jersey", direct quote from Keley in that article. Well I'm sure you'll get your wish Chris....* In Today's news Buffalo Bills release LB/DE Chris Kelsey today *  :devil:
Mario has to buy up all the chris kelsey jerseys too. Well since noone wants one theres 3,460,234 in inventory. Maybe thats why Mario doesnt want the number...


He did finish his career, about five years ago.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 11:42 AM

After reading that article and this thread, it is abundantly clear to me that the fans care much more about Mario's jersey number than Mario does himself. I could care less what number he wears as long as he is out there on the field going after the QB.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 02:35 PM

View Postdogma+, on 03 May 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

Technically, his number right now is 00. I don't think there are many fans running around with 00 on it. In fact, i'm not even sure if it is for sale.

Technically he doesn't have a number right now.  The NFL forbids 00 to be issued as a jersey number.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 02:40 PM

View Postmobywale, on 03 May 2012 - 02:35 PM, said:

Technically he doesn't have a number right now.  The NFL forbids 00 to be issued as a jersey number.

LOL. Flew right over your head, huh?

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 03:43 PM

Jim Kelly's #12 is the only officially jersey number that has been retired

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:06 PM

View Postdogma+, on 03 May 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

LOL. Flew right over your head, huh?

Not really.  Just correcting your misinformation. LOL!!!

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:29 PM

View Postmobywale, on 03 May 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

Not really.  Just correcting your misinformation. LOL!!!

If you "got it", you would realize that I didn't really mean his number was 00.

So as I said, flew right over your head...

Edited by dogma+, 03 May 2012 - 04:30 PM.


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Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:42 PM

View Postdogma+, on 03 May 2012 - 04:29 PM, said:

If you "got it", you would realize that I didn't really mean his number was 00.

So as I said, flew right over your head...

Only a douche would keep responding, so I'll stop.  Bet you won't, though.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 04:53 PM

View Postmobywale, on 03 May 2012 - 04:42 PM, said:

Only a douche would keep responding, so I'll stop.  Bet you won't, though.

Isn't this a "response", therefore making you a "douche"?

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:12 PM

View PostMarauder24, on 03 May 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

Isn't this a "response", therefore making you a "douche"?

Exactly...

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:27 PM

Do players own their #'s? Isn't it the team determines who wears what?

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:56 PM

View PostMarauder24, on 03 May 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

Isn't this a "response", therefore making you a "douche"?

lmao :thumbsup:

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 07:00 PM

Upon the initial read of the topic, I thought "Yep, Kelsay is a boner"

But after reading the actual article, the poster and anyone ripping Kelsay is a real bonehead.

Kelsay has often been a liability- especially since having been converted to a retarded LB (no offense to actual retards)- but Mario didn't even bring the issue up. Kelsay did.

This isn't even an issue.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:07 AM

Has his eyes on 2 numbers

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@tmitt23 prolly last min. Sry there's two I want