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[Estelle Getty]

Not sure if this has been posted but thought it was pretty funny....especially the 1:01 mark.

[eball]

Bizarre.

[LoyalToTheEnd]

I think Michael Ace has a little mancrush on RJ

[BiggieScooby]

The Rocky montage is fitting for such a fine athelete.

[justnzane]

His uncle Rico is smiling somewhere.

[elcrusho]

Blasphemy that he uses Hearts on Fire...From the greatest movie ever

[Fezmid]

Estelle Getty, on 07 May 2012 - 04:52 AM, said:

Not sure if this has been posted but thought it was pretty funny....especially the 1:01 mark.

youtube.com/watch?v=iCQXUezR-HM

So why were you searching for videos of Rob Johnson.....?

[mrags]

Ok first of all I can't believe someone would ever male that video even of it was for a joke. I font think Rob himself would put together that montage. Second, how the hell did someone find that many photos of Rob Johnson? I can't believe there are that many out there. Third, the guy played on alot of teams. I dont remember the Raiders, Giants or Redskins. Apparently Buffalo wasn't the only stupid team to pick him up. Forth, The guy has a ring and there aren't too many QBs that played for Buffalo that can claim that. Just saying.

[KD in CT]

I only got through about 8 seconds before I had to turn that crap off.   I had forgotten he was a Trojan -- even more reason that he = RJ.

[Wooderson]

I think we should bring him back to back-up Fitzy.  Veteran player, could teach the young kids how to surf, and he does have a Super Bowl ring.

[Buftex]

mrags, on 07 May 2012 - 08:18 AM, said:

Ok first of all I can't believe someone would ever male that video even of it was for a joke. I font think Rob himself would put together that montage. Second, how the hell did someone find that many photos of Rob Johnson? I can't believe there are that many out there. Third, the guy played on alot of teams. I dont remember the Raiders, Giants or Redskins. Apparently Buffalo wasn't the only stupid team to pick him up. Forth, The guy has a ring and there aren't too many QBs that played for Buffalo that can claim that. Just saying.

Count me as one of the few who had great hope for RJ, up til the end.  I know the body of work isn't impressive, but there were times, just plays here and there, where the guy looked like an elite QB...but, like Trent Edwards, and maybe JP Losman a little bit after him, his ego was just to fragile, and he thought too much...he thought too much, and got his clock cleaned more often than not.

I wish I could find it, but I remember RJ throwning a pass, across his body, about 60 yards down field, opposite sideline, to, IIRC Eric Moulds, that maybe only John Elway could have pulled off...it was deadly accurate, like threading a needle, while scrambling...IIRC it was one of a handful of games he had, during his time, where you could kind of see why so many people thought he was something special...oh well.  "INCOMING"

Relive the fun:

Edited by Buftex, 07 May 2012 - 09:07 AM.

[JPS]

The off season sucks.

[Fezmid]

Buftex, on 07 May 2012 - 09:02 AM, said:

Count me as one of the few who had great hope for RJ, up til the end.  I know the body of work isn't impressive, but there were times, just plays here and there, where the guy looked like an elite QB...but, like Trent Edwards, and maybe JP Losman a little bit after him, his ego was just to fragile, and he thought too much...he thought too much, and got his clock cleaned more often than not.

I wish I could find it, but I remember RJ throwning a pass, across his body, about 60 yards down field, opposite sideline, to, IIRC Eric Moulds, that maybe only John Elway could have pulled off...it was deadly accurate, like threading a needle, while scrambling...IIRC it was one of a handful of games he had, during his time, where you could kind of see why so many people thought he was something special...oh well.  "INCOMING"

I think he would've ended up being a good QB if not for our horrendous OL.  The guy got clobbered so much that he became timid, always preparing to get crushed and not really focusing on the game.  If we had an average-to-good OL, things may have turned out differently.  We'll never know.

[rafter]

justnzane, on 07 May 2012 - 07:00 AM, said:

His uncle Rico is smiling somewhere.

[over 20 years of fanhood]

He was a lot like JP; cannon arm, great athlete, questionable leadership skills and smarts.

[Buftex]

Fezmid, on 07 May 2012 - 09:21 AM, said:

I think he would've ended up being a good QB if not for our horrendous OL.  The guy got clobbered so much that he became timid, always preparing to get crushed and not really focusing on the game.  If we had an average-to-good OL, things may have turned out differently.  We'll never know.

Yeah, that is the fragile thing I was talking about.  Funny, but I don't remember the O-line being that horrendous during RJ's years, but that could be the fact that the only thing we would have to compare it too is how they played when Flutie was in the game... and Flutie was a much more unconventional QB than RJ. What was a little frustrating about RJ (and maybe this was a sign of the times he played in, when mobility wasn't as valued a QB commodity as it is now), the guy could run, and had decent speed...it was always his last resort though...a few 10-15 yard runs early in a game, might have slowed that pass rush down a bit.  

I think RJ might have fared better in Buffalo if he had a different backup QB...not blaming Flutie, but he (Flutie) wasn't one to defer, and I don't think RJ was mentally prepared to deal with the almost Tebowesque trance that Flutie had on Buffalo, and the NFL in general.

I remember being at a regular season game in Buffalo, against the Chargers (2000 IIRC) where Johnson was having a really strong game...mostly a short yardage game...soemthing like 30 completions for 340 yards, a td pass...the Bills were moving the ball against a good Chargers defense, and RJ led them down the field, final 2 minutes, to tie the game up at 24..the whole game, the crowd was just booing Johnson mericelessly.  I was kind of shocked...it was my first game, in Buffalo, during the RJ/Flutie years.

RJ was playing well, but he wasn't Flutie...sure as ****, opening drive of OT, Johnson got hurt, the Bills defense held the Chargers, and then, Flutie came in and led the Bills to a winning field goal...the legend of Flutie just kept growing...

Edited by Buftex, 07 May 2012 - 09:49 AM.

[eball]

The difference between successful and unsuccessful QBs in the NFL often comes down to one thing -- the ability to process information quickly.  Every one of these guys -- even the 3rd stringers -- were absolute studs in college, when their physical abilities were enough to overcome a deficiency in mental processing.  That's why so often, guys like RJ are phenomenal in practice and during workouts -- when they know what's coming, the athletic ability shines.  In a game, unless everything goes perfectly, disaster strikes.  It's also why you see the pattern of one great game followed by four stinkers.

I was admittedly on the wrong side of the RJ/Flutie debate; if we could only go back and do it all again, Buffalo might have been playing the Rams in the 2000 Super Bowl.

[KD in CT]

eball, on 07 May 2012 - 09:58 AM, said:

The difference between successful and unsuccessful QBs in the NFL often comes down to one thing -- the ability to process information quickly.  Every one of these guys -- even the 3rd stringers -- were absolute studs in college, when their physical abilities were enough to overcome a deficiency in mental processing.  That's why so often, guys like RJ are phenomenal in practice and during workouts -- when they know what's coming, the athletic ability shines.  In a game, unless everything goes perfectly, disaster strikes.  It's also why you see the pattern of one great game followed by four stinkers.

Exactly....and it's one of the harder things to measure.  Which is why everyone ignored the skinny guy with a mediocre arm from Michigan during the 2000 draft.

[hondo in seattle]

There was a reason for the Flutie-Johnson controversy - both did some things well; neither did everything well.

Johnson actually put up better numbers.  His QB rating with the Bills was something like 86 while Flutie's was more like 81.

Johnson had a good arm but was indecisive, a poor leader, and took way too many sacks.

Flutie was a great scrambler and had some 4th quarter heroics but was often dismal for the first 3 quarters.

I'm glad they're both gone.  Fitz is better than either of them.

[Mr. WEO]

RJ lost his starting job when he was injured falling on a football.

He was dumb as a box of rocks, and I think he understood this, to some degree.  JP was as dumb but he had no idea.  He really thought he was a first round worthy NFL QB.  Coudln't read a Snellen chart, let alone a defense.