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#1 Why So Serious?

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:37 AM

I love Fitzy and I really liked Kirk Cousins leading into the draft.
HE is a good size for a QB, 33 on the wonderlic, 40 plus starts in college, 65% completition percentage, won some big games.

Concerns were he had a noodle arm, and threw too many screens,  Some "experts" opined concern that he was a "system QB" even if that system was pro style. Also worried that he wasn't athletic enough to escape a pass rush.

I know its preseason but he looked great again.

TJ Graham looks good too.

Redskins need some WR help, Bills need a development QB.
What would you do if the Bills and skins swapped prospects?



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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:43 AM

View PostWhy So Serious?, on 19 August 2012 - 08:37 AM, said:

I love Fitzy and I really liked Kirk Cousins leading into the draft.
HE is a good size for a QB, 33 on the wonderlic, 40 plus starts in college, 65% completition percentage, won some big games.

Concerns were he had a noodle arm, and threw too many screens,  Some "experts" opined concern that he was a "system QB" even if that system was pro style. Also worried that he wasn't athletic enough to escape a pass rush.

I know its preseason but he looked great again.

TJ Graham looks good too.

Redskins need some WR help, Bills need a development QB.
What would you do if the Bills and skins swapped prospects?

Roll my eyes. :rolleyes:

#3 SageAgainstTheMachine

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:44 AM

Graham's upside is higher than Cousins'.  (In my opinion).

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:44 AM

As much as I like the creative thought process, the Bills are not going to give away an investment like T.J. Graham, especially when they could've had Cousins and passed a few times (I, too, thought they should've taken a shot on him).  If the Young experiment were much worse for the showings they might really go after a QB now, while there is still a preseason, but even that would be dramatic.  The truth is, too much prep work has gone into who they already have.  Unless a really dynamite QB prospect were to become available via waiver wires or FA, I'm guessing they'll stick with what they have this season.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 09:02 AM

I really felt bad for Cousins on draft day.  There was some hype about him and I felt, along with many other Bills fans, that we were going to get him.  It will be interesting to see how Washington handles his second contract.

Swapping does not make sense.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 10:19 AM

View PostLogical Reasoning, on 19 August 2012 - 09:02 AM, said:

Swapping does not make sense.

How do you know? Have you ever tried it?

Wait… what?

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 12:30 PM

View PostSan Jose Bills Fan, on 19 August 2012 - 10:19 AM, said:

How do you know? Have you ever tried it?

Wait… what?
:lol:

#8 ajzepp

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 12:40 PM

View PostSan Jose Bills Fan, on 19 August 2012 - 10:19 AM, said:

How do you know? Have you ever tried it?

Wait… what?

:w00t:

#9 Johnny Hammersticks

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:02 PM

I'd give them Torell Troup and a bag of used footballs.

#10 Bangarang

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:09 PM

Where was this thread last week when Cousins was 9/22 for 75 yards with an INT?

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:17 PM

View PostWhy So Serious?, on 19 August 2012 - 08:37 AM, said:

I love Fitzy and I really liked Kirk Cousins leading into the draft.
HE is a good size for a QB, 33 on the wonderlic, 40 plus starts in college, 65% completition percentage, won some big games.

Concerns were he had a noodle arm, and threw too many screens,  Some "experts" opined concern that he was a "system QB" even if that system was pro style. Also worried that he wasn't athletic enough to escape a pass rush.

I know its preseason but he looked great again.

TJ Graham looks good too.

Redskins need some WR help, Bills need a development QB.
What would you do if the Bills and skins swapped prospects?

6'3" 209 Lbs is terrible size.  He better put on at least 15 lbs to have adequete size.  The Bills don't need a development QB.  This team is built to win soon in regards to players.  It's either Fitz or a move needs to be made to find a starter, and with the way rookies are coming in and proving themselves that's the route to go IMO if Fitz proves to not be the answer.  But trading our 3rd round draft pick at one of our most crucial need positions would be regressive.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:27 PM

Kirk Cousins. Paging Kirk Cousins to the hall of fame. Your one terrible and one ok Preseason performance has qualified you for the NFL Hall of Fame.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:36 PM

View PostSan Jose Bills Fan, on 19 August 2012 - 10:19 AM, said:

How do you know? Have you ever tried it?

Wait… what?

:thumbsup:

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:19 PM

I firmly believe that Kirk will produce if given the Chance.  -Kid has a lot of heart, and a strong arm.

If, heaven forbid, RG3 goes down early in the season, you couldn't ask for a better insurance policy than Kirk Cousins.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:29 PM

Someone please tell me why I see so many threads on QB's rated in the 2nd or lower?  I dont understand it. I thought we were looking for a franchise QB?

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:37 PM

View Post#34fan, on 19 August 2012 - 02:19 PM, said:

I firmly believe that Kirk will produce if given the Chance.  -Kid has a lot of heart, and a strong arm.

If, heaven forbid, RG3 goes down early in the season, you couldn't ask for a better insurance policy than Kirk Cousins.

The 3rd round draft pick rookie is not their insurance policy of RG3 goes down, especially early in the season.  That player is Grossman.  Where do you people come up with this stuff?  And you're firm about it.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:43 PM

Be patient...the 2013 draft will be here in 249 days.

2013 QB's, in order

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 03:28 PM

View PostTriple Threat, on 19 August 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

The 3rd round draft pick rookie is not their insurance policy of RG3 goes down, especially early in the season.  That player is Grossman.  Where do you people come up with this stuff?  And you're firm about it.

You're the one being unjustifiably firm. -About REX GROSSMAN of all people! :lol:

For now, Rex is the backup. But some feel that he's had more than enough chances to prove himself in the NFL. Let's see what Shannahan and the depth chart says in early september.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 03:31 PM

Cousins threw 3 td's by the way it was way more than just an ok performance.......I feel bills would have scooped him up if he fell a little further.........I would be in on a trade for him....TJ Graham wouldn't neccesarily need to be involved........ a 2nd rounder or throw in a player a la Kelsay etc if skins love any of them.....maybe something along those lines perhaps.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 04:33 PM

View PostRyan L Billz, on 19 August 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

Cousins threw 3 td's by the way it was way more than just an ok performance.......I feel bills would have scooped him up if he fell a little further.........I would be in on a trade for him....TJ Graham wouldn't neccesarily need to be involved........ a 2nd rounder or throw in a player a la Kelsay etc if skins love any of them.....maybe something along those lines perhaps.

Are you serious? You want to trade a 2nd rounder for a 3rd rounder before he has done anything? Anything at all?