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#1 markgbe

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:40 PM

I mean different guys on d.... different D coaching sorta.... what the heck? Why is it the same or worse than last year?

Edited by markgbe, 07 October 2012 - 07:41 PM.


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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:40 PM

Its vanilla

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:46 PM

They are demoralized, and are on a slippery slope. They don't have the kind of leadership fight through when things go bad. They aren't mentally tough. They don't believe in each other, or the offense (the QB especially).

Edited by Matthews' Bag, 07 October 2012 - 07:46 PM.


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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:49 PM

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:49 PM

Everything.

We couldn't defend the deep pass, we couldn't defend the middle of the field, we couldn't defend the short slant, we couldn't defend the sideline passes, we couldn't defend the out, we couldn't defend the screen, we couldn't push the pocket up the middle, we couldn't edge rush, we couldn't generate pressure with the speed rush, we couldn't generate pressure with the bull rush, we couldn't beat single blocking, we couldn't set the edge in the sweep game, we couldn't clog the middle in the power running game, we couldn't man our gaps, we couldn't wrap and tackle, we couldn't tackle in the open field ...

There wasn't a single positive takeaway.  Everything is wrong, and no one currently associated with this team can fix it.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:50 PM

View PostTakeYouToTasker, on 07 October 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

We couldn't defend the deep pass, we couldn't defend the middle of the field, we couldn't defend the short slant, we couldn't defend the sideline passes, we couldn't defend the out, we couldn't defend the screen, we couldn't push the pocket up the middle, we couldn't edge rush, we couldn't generate pressure with the speed rush, we couldn't generate pressure with the bull rush, we couldn't beat single blocking, we couldn't set the edge in the sweep game, we couldn't clog the middle in the power running game, we couldn't man our gaps, we couldn't wrap and tackle, we couldn't tackle in the open field ...

Other than that, I love how we've been doing.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:51 PM

i may be completely talking out my @$$, but it seems like they are lacking a vocal, ra ra type leader. a guy to fire up the guys, keep them motivated and hold them accountable. someone like that may not matter at all, but when they are playing this way, i would like to see someone getting mad about it.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:56 PM

View PostJR In Ann Arbor, on 07 October 2012 - 07:50 PM, said:

Other than that, I love how we've been doing.
Wannstedt has installed the Cover 0

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:57 PM

it's all fitz fault the defense is a no show

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:58 PM

I think the defense has quit on the team. They have mentally checked and going thru the motions of playing to collect their checks. Ever since Moorman was fired, something must have happened two weeks ago.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:59 PM

View PostFan in San Diego, on 07 October 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

I think the defense has quit on the team. They have mentally checked and going thru the motions of playing to collect their checks. Ever since Moorman was fired, something must have happened two weeks ago.

I got to thinking the same thing!

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:01 PM

there is no FIRE. Its to vanilla and has no desire to dominate. I really feel like its time for a new coaching staff. I know it wont be a big name and I am fine with that. Just a coach who can make adjustments and wont get out game planned week after week.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:01 PM

View PostTakeYouToTasker, on 07 October 2012 - 07:56 PM, said:

Wannstedt has installed the Cover 0

haha. See, and people complain that he's not utilizing schemes that match the Bills' talent!?

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:04 PM

View PostFan in San Diego, on 07 October 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

I think the defense has quit on the team. They have mentally checked and going thru the motions of playing to collect their checks. Ever since Moorman was fired, something must have happened two weeks ago.

You know, I really think you're on to something here. The ONE major difference between the team coming off a two game win streak and then performing at an historically low level is the loss of Brian Moorman, a team leader and one of its voted captains. Something happened indeed.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:07 PM

View PostJR In Ann Arbor, on 07 October 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

haha. See, and people complain that he's not utilizing schemes that match the Bills' talent!?

:lol:

Some combination of the schemes being **** and the players not knowing what they're doing in said schemes.  You could see it on some of the coverage breakdowns.

And that the players need to learn how to !@#$ING TACKLE.  Could see that on most of the plays, too...

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:08 PM

Lack of quality LB's.  We have a freaking safety playing LB.  WTF.   Chandler Jones from SYR is playing better than Mario at end.  It's like no one has a clue how to play football except for Dearus and Gilmore.  Round 1: QB.  Round2-7: mean, nasty defensive players from the SEC.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:09 PM

View PostJR In Ann Arbor, on 07 October 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

haha. See, and people complain that he's not utilizing schemes that match the Bills' talent!?
I honestly don't see how they could play any worse if we didn't dress a defense.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:13 PM

I actually think it is all scheme. This same defense stuffed the run against the Chiefs and Browns (and sort of the Jets)--good running teams.

The Pats* exposed some schematic weakness, and the Niners watched the film and followed suit.  There is some super obvious schematic problems, and if we can't figure out a way to counter it, we're done.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:17 PM

View Postswnybillsfan, on 07 October 2012 - 07:51 PM, said:

i may be completely talking out my @$$, but it seems like they are lacking a vocal, ra ra type leader. a guy to fire up the guys, keep them motivated and hold them accountable. someone like that may not matter at all, but when they are playing this way, i would like to see someone getting mad about it.

If you were at the Pats* game last week, you saw Kyle Williams gather the team at midfield before the game and he was extremely animated and fiery.  They proceeded to win the first half, then got crushed.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 08:19 PM

I thought the Bills missed London Fletcher, Nate Clements, Antoine Winfield & Donte Whitner today.