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#1 ny33

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 09:58 PM

While Wilson is starting at QB for Seattle, it's fairly evident that he will never be an elite QB. To those of you who keep complaining that we didn't draft him: Graham has been very solid with his targets, struggling mainly with balls thrown far out of his reach.

I don't think Fitz will win us games, but Wilson's limitations due to his height, combined with other problems in his game, mean that he will be a bottom 10 QB in the league. Is it impressive that he is starting as a rookie over a big-budget free agent signing in Flynn? Yes, but that doesn't mean that Wilson has what it takes to lead a team in a deep playoff run. I do lament the fact that we picked Dalton over Williams, though, especially given the fact that we hadn't made such a commitment to Fitzpatrick at that time.

Please read the date of this post and then read through the thread. Quit replying to something that was said months ago and catch up with what is currently being said (thanks, Beerball)

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:01 PM

View Postny33, on 07 October 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

While Wilson is starting at QB for Seattle, it's fairly evident that he will never be an elite QB.

Um...You may very well end up being right...But seriously...The Kid has played 5 NFL Games...There is no way anything is fairly evident just yet... B-)

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:02 PM

View PostKOKBILLS, on 07 October 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

Um...You may very well end up being right...But seriously...The Kid has played 5 NFL Games...There is no way anything is fairly evident just yet... B-)

Things can change, obviously, but when you have certain physical limitations, you're not going to be an elite quarterback in the NFL.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:04 PM

View Postny33, on 07 October 2012 - 10:02 PM, said:

Things can change, obviously, but when you have certain physical limitations, you're not going to be an elite quarterback in the NFL.
Is Braylon Edwards considered a physical limitation?

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:06 PM

View PostSisyphean Bills, on 07 October 2012 - 10:04 PM, said:

Is Braylon Edwards considered a physical limitation?

With Tate, Rice, and Miller, the team does have talent at receiving positions. Edwards doesn't get many targets for Seattle.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:21 PM

View Postny33, on 07 October 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

With Tate, Rice, and Miller, the team does have talent at receiving positions. Edwards doesn't get many targets for Seattle.

I've seen him drop a couple of TDs already this season.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:30 PM

View Postny33, on 07 October 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

While Wilson is starting at QB for Seattle, it's fairly evident that he will never be an elite QB. To those of you who keep complaining that we didn't draft him: Graham has been very solid with his targets, struggling mainly with balls thrown far out of his reach.

I don't think Fitz will win us games, but Wilson's limitations due to his height, combined with other problems in his game, mean that he will be a bottom 10 QB in the league. Is it impressive that he is starting as a rookie over a big-budget free agent signing in Flynn? Yes, but that doesn't mean that Wilson has what it takes to lead a team in a deep playoff run. I do lament the fact that we picked Dalton over Williams, though, especially given the fact that we hadn't made such a commitment to Fitzpatrick at that time.

People in glass houses.....

This is what i do know is one thing that is worse that fitz as a qb, is fitz as a qb in a 5wr set spread chan gun offense when behind. What the heck was that end zone pick???  I have never seen an nfl qb make a throw like that excepting hail mary throws or so.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:32 PM

View Postover 20 years of fanhood, on 07 October 2012 - 10:30 PM, said:

People in glass houses.....

This is what i do know is one thing that is worse that fitz as a qb, is fitz as a qb in a 5wr set spread chan gun offense when behind. What the heck was that end zone pick???  I have never seen an nfl qb make a throw like that excepting hail mary throws or so.

Again, I don't think the team will win with Fitz at QB. I just want to make a point for the people who were insisting that we draft Wilson. Will Wilson be an adequate starting QB? Possibly. It's also possible that he ends up better than Fitz, but I don't see him ever being above-average.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 11:42 PM

View Postny33, on 07 October 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

Again, I don't think the team will win with Fitz at QB. I just want to make a point for the people who were insisting that we draft Wilson. Will Wilson be an adequate starting QB? Possibly. It's also possible that he ends up better than Fitz, but I don't see him ever being above-average.

The draft is always a crap shoot.
Edwards was a 3rd rounder
Losman was a 1st
Brady was a 6th
Romo wasn't drafted
V Young was a 1st
Fitz was a 7th
Ryan Leaf 2nd pick

You never truly know what you are going to get, so for the ones clamoring to draft somebody, anybody to replace Fitz, there is no guarantee they will be better than Fitz. The only 2 I can think of that were absolute home runs were P Maning and A Luck, and would you know the Colts got both of them. I don't think Newton, or RG III are home runs and I do think Dalton will end up being better than both of them. Whatever though, draft is still no guarantee.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 11:57 PM

View Postny33, on 07 October 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

While Wilson is starting at QB for Seattle, it's fairly evident that he will never be an elite QB. To those of you who keep complaining that we didn't draft him: Graham has been very solid with his targets, struggling mainly with balls thrown far out of his reach.

I don't think Fitz will win us games, but Wilson's limitations due to his height, combined with other problems in his game, mean that he will be a bottom 10 QB in the league. Is it impressive that he is starting as a rookie over a big-budget free agent signing in Flynn? Yes, but that doesn't mean that Wilson has what it takes to lead a team in a deep playoff run. I do lament the fact that we picked Dalton over Williams, though, especially given the fact that we hadn't made such a commitment to Fitzpatrick at that time.

I'm lamenting we didn't trade up for Tannehill who will throw 4 TDs against us, when we play.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 12:06 AM

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 12:12 AM

I was upset we passed on Wilson, but I'm starting to think he's not all that and a six pack of Schlitz. But like the fella said, he's only 5 games into his career.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 01:03 AM

View Postny33, on 07 October 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

While Wilson is starting at QB for Seattle, it's fairly evident that he will never be an elite QB. To those of you who keep complaining that we didn't draft him: Graham has been very solid with his targets, struggling mainly with balls thrown far out of his reach.

I don't think Fitz will win us games, but Wilson's limitations due to his height, combined with other problems in his game, mean that he will be a bottom 10 QB in the league. Is it impressive that he is starting as a rookie over a big-budget free agent signing in Flynn? Yes, but that doesn't mean that Wilson has what it takes to lead a team in a deep playoff run. I do lament the fact that we picked Dalton over Williams, though, especially given the fact that we hadn't made such a commitment to Fitzpatrick at that time.

Excuse me but Wilson is the QB for the Seahawks because he WON THAT JOB. He beat out a more experience, high-priced, (and taller) competitor because he was just that good.

Like I tell everyone, Wilson is just getting started. Just getting a feel for the game, and what he can get away with.  He's got a team that believes in him, and so far he hasn't let them down.

Give the kid a chance. His defense is playing for him and they're winning games.

Btw, great post. -I'll be saving it to rub your nose in later.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 06:08 AM

View Post#34fan, on 09 October 2012 - 01:03 AM, said:

Excuse me but Wilson is the QB for the Seahawks because he WON THAT JOB. He beat out a more experience, high-priced, (and taller) competitor because he was just that good.

Like I tell everyone, Wilson is just getting started. Just getting a feel for the game, and what he can get away with.  He's got a team that believes in him, and so far he hasn't let them down.

Give the kid a chance. His defense is playing for him and they're winning games.

Btw, great post. -I'll be saving it to rub your nose in later.

Thta's right--he beat out the guy everyone here is clamoring to replace Fitz.  This is a silly thread.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 07:45 AM

View Postny33, on 07 October 2012 - 10:02 PM, said:

Things can change, obviously, but when you have certain physical limitations, you're not going to be an elite quarterback in the NFL.
Tell that to future HOF QB Drew Brees

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:58 AM

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 12:50 PM

View PostMr. WEO, on 09 October 2012 - 06:08 AM, said:

Thta's right--he beat out the guy everyone here is clamoring to replace Fitz.  This is a silly thread.

I don't think Fitz or Tarvaris will win us games, but, if anything, Fitz is a better fit.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 10:58 PM

Well so far, the 5th game of his career was the best.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:34 PM

View PostMr. WEO, on 09 October 2012 - 06:08 AM, said:

Thta's right--he beat out the guy everyone here is clamoring to replace Fitz.  This is a silly thread.

Matt Flynn plays for the Bills?