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#1 Bronc24

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 07:00 PM

I said it then and I will say it now. I wish we had the balls to make a move like this. The kid is special.

#2 PromoTheRobot

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 07:04 PM

Hindsight is awesome. But let's wait till wins something.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 07:06 PM

I've been waiting for the playoffs for 13 years. Waiting is not an issue.

View PostPromoTheRobot, on 22 November 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

Hindsight is awesome. But let's wait till wins something.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 07:13 PM

View PostMarauder24, on 22 November 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

I said it then and I will say it now. I wish we had the balls to make a move like this. The kid is special.
We've never had a real chance to make the blockbuster

Bledsoe, losman, rob Johnson were all big trades for qbs though.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 07:21 PM

View PostNoSaint, on 22 November 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:


We've never had a real chance to make the blockbuster

Bledsoe, losman, rob Johnson were all big trades for qbs though.

Thanks for the reminder.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 07:24 PM

View PostMarauder24, on 22 November 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

I said it then and I will say it now. I wish we had the balls to make a move like this. The kid is special.

Hall. Remind you of cam newton....

How was he last year?

And this year?



#7 Bronc24

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 07:27 PM

Much better passer than Cam Newton.  And are you saying you would have not had made that move?

Edited by Marauder24, 22 November 2012 - 07:28 PM.


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Posted 22 November 2012 - 07:37 PM

Sure throws a pretty INT

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 07:45 PM

I still think they gave up too much but will make up for it when they trade their other rookie QB in a year or two which was a great pick

It was an extremely risky move bc if it doesn't workout skins would be screwed for a long time

As far as Newton, the league has adjusted to him just like they will RG3 this offseason

View PostMarauder24, on 22 November 2012 - 07:27 PM, said:

Much better passer than Cam Newton.  And are you saying you would have not had made that move?

I'm guessing this is first time u r seeing RG3 play bc before last week he was really struggling in the passing game

Edited by Max997, 22 November 2012 - 07:40 PM.


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Posted 22 November 2012 - 07:49 PM

Nope. Followed him at Baylor, watched a lot of Skins games. He is a better passer than Newton.

View PostPromoTheRobot, on 22 November 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

Sure throws a pretty INT

You must love Fitz's work, then.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:02 PM

View PostPromoTheRobot, on 22 November 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

Sure throws a pretty INT

I love you always defend Fitz to ad nauseum but pick on quality QBs like RG3 by commenting on his INT after he had already thrown 4 TDs and had a spectacular day and a flawless week 5 days ago too.  I mean, you even hated on him because of Newton when they are not the same player.  This kid, and newton, are light years better than any QB we have trotted out since Kelly, and it's not even close.

#12 Bronc24

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:11 PM

View PostPromoTheRobot, on 22 November 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

Sure throws a pretty INT

Sure wins a big division game, on the road.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:15 PM

View PostMax997, on 22 November 2012 - 07:45 PM, said:

I still think they gave up too much but will make up for it when they trade their other rookie QB in a year or two which was a great pick

It was an extremely risky move bc if it doesn't workout skins would be screwed for a long time

As far as Newton, the league has adjusted to him just like they will RG3 this offseason



I'm guessing this is first time u r seeing RG3 play bc before last week he was really struggling in the passing game

i look at this another way.....

first round draft picks are risky and over rated....

i look at a first round draft pick as a $5 million "cap slot".....they did NOT lose the cap space, it is still available to use on a PROVEN free agent....they only lost the right to use that cap space on an unproven rookie.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:18 PM

View PostAlphadawg7, on 22 November 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:



I love you always defend Fitz to ad nauseum but pick on quality QBs like RG3 by commenting on his INT after he had already thrown 4 TDs and had a spectacular day and a flawless week 5 days ago too.  I mean, you even hated on him because of Newton when they are not the same player.  This kid, and newton, are light years better than any QB we have trotted out since Kelly, and it's not even close.

It's hilarious that everyone assumes I'm defending Fitz. I'm not. I'm pointing out the blind worship people have for touted players. RGIII can do no wrong, even when he does, because he's RGIII.  We crown players before they even finish a full season. Heck we crown them after one play! Marauder is all agog over RGIII today but is oblivious to any bad games he had.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:29 PM

View PostPromoTheRobot, on 22 November 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

It's hilarious that everyone assumes I'm defending Fitz. I'm not. I'm pointing out the blind worship people have for touted players. RGIII can do no wrong, even when he does, because he's RGIII.  We crown players before they even finish a full season. Heck we crown them after one play! Marauder is all agog over RGIII today but is oblivious to any bad games he had.

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Andrew Luck is a future Hall of Famer....

too soon ?

#16 PromoTheRobot

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:29 PM

View Postpapazoid, on 22 November 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:



Andrew Luck is a future Hall of Famer....

too soon ?

A tad.

#17 Bronc24

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:30 PM

View PostPromoTheRobot, on 22 November 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:



It's hilarious that everyone assumes I'm defending Fitz. I'm not. I'm pointing out the blind worship people have for touted players. RGIII can do no wrong, even when he does, because he's RGIII.  We crown players before they even finish a full season. Heck we crown them after one play! Marauder is all agog over RGIII today but is oblivious to any bad games he had.

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Oblivious?  Look at my history in the spring. I was all over making a move for him.  And I "crowned his ass" before he played a down in the NFL, oh all knowing one.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:37 PM

I wish we made the deal before he played a down.  I feel the same now, although I'm beyond happy we got Gilmore and Glenn.  Was a win-win.  Luckily we won too.  Although I think the Skins are the big winners as long as he stays healthy.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:38 PM

rg3 is way different then newton hes the real deal. I wanted him then and I will want him for as long as hes a pro. People love to compare cam and rg3 but theyre completely different players its not even fair to compare to the two.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:43 PM

View PostPromoTheRobot, on 22 November 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

It's hilarious that everyone assumes I'm defending Fitz. I'm not. I'm pointing out the blind worship people have for touted players. RGIII can do no wrong, even when he does, because he's RGIII.  We crown players before they even finish a full season. Heck we crown them after one play! Marauder is all agog over RGIII today but is oblivious to any bad games he had.

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Too precious.  Maybe one of these days you'll realize that it's not a particular player that the critics are pining for, but the sad reality that each successive Bills front office in 14 years hasn't been able to field a competent team.  Yet, you keep disparaging fans that are critical of this joke of a franchise.