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#1 HOUSE

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 03:34 PM

How does a team 3 years into a rebuilding project (Bills) be the overwhelming UNDERDOG against last years worst NFL team ? ( Colts)



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#2 DPR4444

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 03:49 PM

the true experts are the people whose livelihood really depends on accurately predicting the outcome of these games --- oddsmakers and gamblers.  they have made the Colts 3 point favorites.  Given that the Colts are the home team, and home field advantage is, as a rule of thumb, considered to be worth about 3 points, its essentially an even match up.

#3 jboyst62

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 04:11 PM

The Colts have been in a rebuild mode since 2010.  They are 3 years in to a rebuild.  Dungy's last season with them was their last great season.  The 2010 season, and many seasons before were masked heavily by Manning.  The Colts did very well by focusing around a strong offense and having good defenses, but to not realize that 2010 and 2011 were horrible years for them is laughable.  Without Manning on the team in 2010 they'd not have won 10 games.  They have also played in one of the most piss poor conferences in the league.

Proof of this:  The Saints outcoached the Colts, sure, but more importantly, showed that the Colts were not very good that season.  Every team they faced tried to outscore them when all they had to do was control the clock.

#4 nucci

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 05:44 PM

View PostHOUSE, on 24 November 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

How does a team 3 years into a rebuilding project (Bills) be the overwhelming UNDERDOG against last years worst NFL team ? ( Colts)



http://espn.go.com/nfl/picks
Overwhelming?

#5 billsoverdue

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 05:44 PM

Colts 37

Bills 34

Whoever sets these lines are pretty frickin' good.

#6 ICanSleepWhenI'mDead

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 06:01 PM

View PostDPR4444, on 24 November 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

the true experts are the people whose livelihood really depends on accurately predicting the outcome of these games --- oddsmakers and gamblers.  they have made the Colts 3 point favorites.  Given that the Colts are the home team, and home field advantage is, as a rule of thumb, considered to be worth about 3 points, its essentially an even match up.
http://entertainment...ts-betting2.htm

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Oddsmakers don't try to predict the outcome of the game when setting point spreads. If a team is favored by seven points, that doesn't mean that the oddsmaker necessarily thinks it will win by seven points. The oddsmaker's goal when setting the line is to keep an equal number of bets on both sides of the game. The betting public's perception of the game can be as important as the actual comparison of the two teams.


#7 Coach Tuesday

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 06:15 PM

They bottomed out at the right time.

I'm surprised no one has seized on the fact that the Bills face their arch nemesis tomorrow - Luck.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 06:20 PM

View PostHOUSE, on 24 November 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

How does a team 3 years into a rebuilding project (Bills) be the overwhelming UNDERDOG against last years worst NFL team ? ( Colts)
http://espn.go.com/nfl/picks

LAST YEARS worst NFL team
vs.
LAST THIRTEEN YEARS worst NFL team

that's how.

#9 The Wiz

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 06:30 PM

View PostCoach Tuesday, on 24 November 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

They bottomed out at the right time.

I'm surprised no one has seized on the fact that the Bills face their arch nemesis tomorrow - Luck.
That was the only thing that has gotten them 4 wins according to most posters around here.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 06:52 PM

View PostThe Wiz, on 24 November 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:


That was the only thing that has gotten them 4 wins according to most posters around here.
It actually takes great skill to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. One could call it a dark art.

#11 Dennis in AZ

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 07:15 PM

View PostCoach Tuesday, on 24 November 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

They bottomed out at the right time.

I'm surprised no one has seized on the fact that the Bills face their arch nemesis tomorrow - Luck.
Yeah, that's some kind of coincidence, eh?

It was probably a concerted effort to bottom out like that. Very smart management.  You have to make it look accidental, though.

#12 3rdand12

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 07:24 PM

View PostCoach Tuesday, on 24 November 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

They bottomed out at the right time.

I'm surprised no one has seized on the fact that the Bills face their arch nemesis tomorrow - Luck.
oh thats good coach !
i did chuckle indeed.
We have had very little Luck the last 52 years.
Or so i hear.

#13 jumbalaya

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 07:40 PM

View PostCoach Tuesday, on 24 November 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

They bottomed out at the right time.

I'm surprised no one has seized on the fact that the Bills face their arch nemesis tomorrow - Luck.
Once Manning went down, the Colts tanked on purpose last year to get their shot at Luck.  Anyone else who believes it wasn't on purpose is nuts.

#14 billsoverdue

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 08:53 PM

View Postjumbalaya, on 24 November 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

Once Manning went down, the Colts tanked on purpose last year to get their shot at Luck.  Anyone else who believes it wasn't on purpose is nuts.


I envy them, too.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 09:23 PM

How can that be?   Must be the odds makers have seen the Bills play.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 01:29 AM

anyone who thinks we can't win this game needs to have their head examined. If our secondary plays a decent game on Reggie Wayne, and we shut down TY Hilton (which I believe) we win.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 01:39 AM

View Postjboyst62, on 24 November 2012 - 04:11 PM, said:

The Colts have been in a rebuild mode since 2010.  They are 3 years in to a rebuild.

Really?  New GM, HC (who is battling a life threatening illness), coaching staff, QB, defensive scheme, offensive scheme, and they're 3 years into a rebuild?  I'm sorry that doesn't pass the smell test and while the AFCS isn't exceptionally strong, the Colts have more wins in 10 games than Buffalo did in Year 0 of their rebuild, 2010.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:08 AM

How?  It's because the Bills have been looking for a franchise QB, while the Colts have conveniently gotten the 1st overall pick when a franchise, can't-miss QB, was there for the taking.  Maybe the Bills should intentionally tank the season before Manziel enters the draft?

And besides, if the Bills win, who cares where the betting line was set?  Not to mention, what does it say about Min and GB, who lost to them?

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:11 AM

Swap the QBs.

Indy has been fortunate enough TWICE to suck when the best QB of the generation is there for the taking.  The BILLS' worst season netted us a number 3 pick.  If it was 1983 that would mean a shot at a couple of future HoFers but any other time?

Our roster is so much stronger than theirs it isn't even funny.  Our defense has played poorly but looks like the '74 Steelers talent-wise compared to Indy.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:23 AM

View PostHOUSE, on 24 November 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

How does a team 3 years into a rebuilding project (Bills) be the overwhelming UNDERDOG against last years worst NFL team ? ( Colts)



http://espn.go.com/nfl/picks

So where's the "very bad comment" and how are the Bills a "overwhelming UNDERDOG"? Because people from ESPN picked the Colts? Don't you know that all those fools do is look at a team and pick a winner based off their record (unless you're the Eagles or Cowboys, then they pick you regardless of record).

Please learn who to write a proper heading for a Topic. I swear this forum is worse and worse every single day.