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#1 DC Grid

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:59 PM

Alright the Bills are 5-7 showing signs of life,but banged up and almost guaranteed to finish 7-9 or 8-8....not in the playoffs, and surprise drafting just out of the top 10.  So what do you want to see this offseason?  I expect that Ralph's status means everyone in the don't office, and also the coaching staff is safe.  Drafting at 11 to 16 it seems the Bills could get a falling QB like Geno or Barkley or their choice of whoever else may emerge, barring a completely insane run on reach  QBs early.  With all that in mind, i'd love to see them spend their money this offseason on Wes Welker.  Many were eager to trash the Bills spending spree earlier this year, but it seems clear that while anderson was a disaster Mario looks worth the scratch (relative to how FAs work).  Why not follow it up by grabbing a great possession WR who can complete the WR corps, be a great option for Fitz and then a young 1at round QB starting out?  Added bonus it hurts the Pats.  If the Bills can do that plus resign their key FAs like Byrd, maybe there's reason to think this awful drought might be ending next year....maybe.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:10 PM

View PostDC Grid, on 03 December 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

Alright the Bills are 5-7 showing signs of life,but banged up and almost guaranteed to finish 7-9 or 8-8....not in the playoffs, and surprise drafting just out of the top 10.  So what do you want to see this offseason?  I expect that Ralph's status means everyone in the don't office, and also the coaching staff is safe.  Drafting at 11 to 16 it seems the Bills could get a falling QB like Geno or Barkley or their choice of whoever else may emerge, barring a completely insane run on reach  QBs early.  With all that in mind, i'd love to see them spend their money this offseason on Wes Welker.  Many were eager to trash the Bills spending spree earlier this year, but it seems clear that while anderson was a disaster Mario looks worth the scratch (relative to how FAs work).  Why not follow it up by grabbing a great possession WR who can complete the WR corps, be a great option for Fitz and then a young 1at round QB starting out?  Added bonus it hurts the Pats.  If the Bills can do that plus resign their key FAs like Byrd, maybe there's reason to think this awful drought might be ending next year....maybe.

Here we go again.

First of all, showing signs of life? We beat arguably the worst team in the league yesterday. Not a surprise as those are the only teams Gailey and staff can manage to beat.

As far as im concerned the only way things change is if we get some viable coaches in here....

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:15 PM

Have to agree. What signs of life? Colts game was the game that could have turned this season towards the playoffs.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:42 PM

Landry Jones and Dwayne Bowe

View PostScottLaw, on 03 December 2012 - 02:10 PM, said:

Here we go again.

First of all, showing signs of life? We beat arguably the worst team in the league yesterday. Not a surprise as those are the only teams Gailey and staff can manage to beat.

As far as im concerned the only way things change is if we get some viable coaches in here....

Bruce Arians

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:46 PM

Aaron Murray and Dwayne Bowe sounds pretty nice.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:48 PM

Signs of life?  Seriously?  Let's look at the 5 teams that the Bills have beat this year.  They're ALL in last place in their respective divisions.  Their collective record is 17-43.  That's horrendous.  Only Miami matches our record at 5-7.  The others are 2-10 (x2), and 4-8 (x2).  They can't even beat an average team.  That said, there are rumblings locally that the Bills would consider a Geno Smith or Matt Barkley if they were drafting in the area that you suggested.  I don't know though why Geno Smith would even be part of the conversation.  He's not going to make it out of the top-10 draft picks and could even be picked #1 overall if the Chiefs continue to suck as badly as they have.  Regardless of that, Welker in free agency?  Really?  You're talking about a guy that just matched Jerry Rice for games with 10+ receptions.  He's the centerpiece of the Patriots offense after Tom Brady.  He might be a free agent, but I have no doubts that the Patriots will try to re-sign him, and this time around possibly to a longer term contract to finish his career.  I think this Bills teams biggest area of need in players is at linebacker.  They're not very good at covering receivers and especially poor at covering TE's.

One more thing and probably more important is coaching.  Gailey was forced into a run first game plan on Sunday due to the weather.  If he just suddenly gets it that this should in fact be a run first team, that's great.  I'm not buying it though.  He's shown the propensity to ask Fitzpatrick to throw the ball 35 times a week rather than run the ball.  He should be fired, but from what I've read, Nix is committed to him and Fitzpatrick for the future.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:48 PM

I can't say I love the idea of investing serious $ in a wide out that is on the wrong side of 30. As far as I'm concerned.. the offseason plan should be to find the next franchise QB at all costs. If you do that, you solve a lot of your other problems. Look at what Andrew Luck is doing this year with 1 good WR and bunch of castoffs.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:49 PM

View PostRyan L Billz, on 03 December 2012 - 02:46 PM, said:

Aaron Murray and Dwayne Bowe sounds pretty nice.

Murray is smurf and will be a good backup in this league.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 05:52 PM

View PostBuffalo Barbarian, on 03 December 2012 - 02:49 PM, said:

Murray is smurf and will be a good backup in this league.

just like Brees and Russell Wilson, huh? :nana:

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 06:34 PM

View PostRyan L Billz, on 03 December 2012 - 05:52 PM, said:

just like Brees and Russell Wilson, huh? :nana:

This is like the "you don't need a good QB to win a super bowl because Trent Dilfer did it" argument.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:22 AM

View PostRyan L Billz, on 03 December 2012 - 05:52 PM, said:

just like Brees and Russell Wilson, huh? :nana:

Those smurfs are the exceptions, After watching Murray for 3 years he is just another guy.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 07:19 AM

View PostScottLaw, on 03 December 2012 - 02:10 PM, said:

Here we go again.

First of all, showing signs of life? We beat arguably the worst team in the league yesterday. Not a surprise as those are the only teams Gailey and staff can manage to beat.

As far as im concerned the only way things change is if we get some viable coaches in here....
top coaches aren't coming to buffalo.   forget it.   It took $100m to get mario here.   what are we paying a "top" coach and his staff?  $50m?  for non-players?    It is not happening.   Buddy and Chan are what you have until Ralph passes.   Lets stop bashing Chan as he is not going anywhere.   probably the safest job in the league.

View PostLuxy312, on 03 December 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

Signs of life?  Seriously?  Let's look at the 5 teams that the Bills have beat this year.  They're ALL in last place in their respective divisions.  Their collective record is 17-43.  That's horrendous.  Only Miami matches our record at 5-7.  The others are 2-10 (x2), and 4-8 (x2).  They can't even beat an average team.  That said, there are rumblings locally that the Bills would consider a Geno Smith or Matt Barkley if they were drafting in the area that you suggested.  I don't know though why Geno Smith would even be part of the conversation.  He's not going to make it out of the top-10 draft picks and could even be picked #1 overall if the Chiefs continue to suck as badly as they have.  Regardless of that, Welker in free agency?  Really?  You're talking about a guy that just matched Jerry Rice for games with 10+ receptions.  He's the centerpiece of the Patriots offense after Tom Brady.  He might be a free agent, but I have no doubts that the Patriots will try to re-sign him, and this time around possibly to a longer term contract to finish his career.  I think this Bills teams biggest area of need in players is at linebacker.  They're not very good at covering receivers and especially poor at covering TE's.

One more thing and probably more important is coaching.  Gailey was forced into a run first game plan on Sunday due to the weather.  If he just suddenly gets it that this should in fact be a run first team, that's great.  I'm not buying it though.  He's shown the propensity to ask Fitzpatrick to throw the ball 35 times a week rather than run the ball.  He should be fired, but from what I've read, Nix is committed to him and Fitzpatrick for the future.
1st, the Bills don't have the cash to spend $7-8m per year (probably more as you have to pay the "buffalo premium" to get FAs to come) on Welker, plus he and his hottie wife and not plopping down in WNY so they can hit the bars on Chippewa.   what a joke.   forget the Welker idea.  just forget it.  this is not fantasy football.  we are talking about people  and motivations here.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 07:42 AM

View PostDC Grid, on 03 December 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

Alright the Bills are 5-7 showing signs of life,but banged up and almost guaranteed to finish 7-9 or 8-8....not in the playoffs, and surprise drafting just out of the top 10.  So what do you want to see this offseason?  
My Christmas wish list:
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:04 AM

There isn't a QB worth drafting in the first round in my opinion. If Philadelphia releases QB Michael Vick I would sign him and let him compete with Fitz. Vicks only problem in Phily is that there OL sucks. So I would draft an OL like Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan in the 1st round, then a WR like Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee in the second round. then draft a QB like Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse in the 3rd round.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 12:32 PM

my guess is chan stays unless he loses out and we draft manta teo in the 1st or cj mosley(sp) and take a a QB in the second probably murray. i also agree that they would probably be pretty into vick as a FA.

also would love for them to get the levier/byrd contracts done already

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 01:09 PM

Someone has consumed way way way too much koolaid.  Any way you spin it, at the end of the day, this team still sucks. The offseason is irrelevant. The Bills will suck again next season.