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#1 Gugny

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:14 AM

Flacco and Rivers are already starters on better teams than Buffalo.  Alex Smith sucks.  Sanchez sucks.

Why not Kyle Orton?  This guy fell victim to the Tebow debacle in Denver.  He is, by far, the best backup QB in the game.  He will likely go anywhere to be the undisputed starter.  And most importantly ... he'd be an upgrade over our current QB.  A nice upgrade, at that.

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Edited by gugny, 06 December 2012 - 11:48 AM.


#2 Jerry Jabber

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:19 AM

Kyle Orton is a possibility. Another guy is Matt Moore. I'm surprised neither one have been given a shot somewhere to be a starting QB.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:22 AM

View PostJerry Jabber, on 06 December 2012 - 11:19 AM, said:

Kyle Orton is a possibility. Another guy is Matt Moore. I'm surprised neither one have been given a shot somewhere to be a starting QB.
I wonder what it is about Moore that teams don't like.   I've always thought he played well in the games I've seen him play.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:26 AM

agree on Orton and Moore.....they are not to be confused with "elite" guys  but are definetly serviceable especially Orton

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:38 AM

Saw Moore a lot in Carolina. You're crazy to think his situation would be any different then Fitz

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:46 AM

View PostMaddog69, on 06 December 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:


I wonder what it is about Moore that teams don't like.   I've always thought he played well in the games I've seen him play.

I liked him with the Cowboys.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:47 AM

View Postjboyst62, on 06 December 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

Saw Moore a lot in Carolina. You're crazy to think his situation would be any different then Fitz
I've always liked what I've seen of Moore.  Of course, watching him torch the Bills might be what's sticking in my mind.  My general feeling on him is that he, too, would be an upgrade over Fitz.  Not sure if he's a "franchise" guy.  I still prefer Orton over any other current NFL QBs.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:50 AM

View Postgugny, on 06 December 2012 - 11:47 AM, said:


I've always liked what I've seen of Moore.  Of course, watching him torch the Bills might be what's sticking in my mind.  My general feeling on him is that he, too, would be an upgrade over Fitz.  Not sure if he's a "franchise" guy.  I still prefer Orton over any other current NFL QBs.
Being better then Fitz only requires an 8-8 season and 25 picks a season...  low hanging fruit is always the easiest to grab. Unless one is lower then that.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:50 AM

View Postgugny, on 06 December 2012 - 11:14 AM, said:

Flacco and Rivers are already starters on better teams than Buffalo.  Alex Smith sucks.  Sanchez sucks.

Why not Kyle Orton?  This guy fell victim to the Tebow debacle in Denver.  He is, by far, the best backup QB in the game.  He will likely go anywhere to be the undisputed starter.  And most importantly ... he'd be an upgrade over our current QB.  A nice upgrade, at that.

Go Bills.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:53 AM

View Postjboyst62, on 06 December 2012 - 11:50 AM, said:

Being better then Fitz only requires an 8-8 season and 25 picks a season...  low hanging fruit is always the easiest to grab. Unless one is lower then that.
Understood, and agreed.  I've always maintained that I don't want the Bills to move on a QB "just to make a move."  I think Orton is a legitimate starter in this league.  I like Moore, but don't know enough about him.  I do think he's better than Tannehill.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:04 PM

View Postgugny, on 06 December 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

Understood, and agreed.  I've always maintained that I don't want the Bills to move on a QB "just to make a move."  I think Orton is a legitimate starter in this league.  I like Moore, but don't know enough about him.  I do think he's better than Tannehill.

I can't tell if you are being serious or sarcastic given all the threads proposing to acquire everyone's garbage QBs. I disagree with Orton being better than Fitz.

Edited by Fan in Chicago, 06 December 2012 - 12:05 PM.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:52 PM

Why the hell is THIS pinned? There's about 6 pinned threads that this same question could be asked about. What the hell is going on here?

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:11 PM

View Postgugny, on 06 December 2012 - 11:14 AM, said:

Flacco and Rivers are already starters on better teams than Buffalo.  Alex Smith sucks.  Sanchez sucks.

Why not Kyle Orton?  This guy fell victim to the Tebow debacle in Denver.  He is, by far, the best backup QB in the game.  He will likely go anywhere to be the undisputed starter.  And most importantly ... he'd be an upgrade over our current QB.  A nice upgrade, at that.

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3/14/2012: Signed a three-year, $10.5 million contract. The deal included a $5 million signing bonus. 2012: $900,000, 2013: $1.35 million, 2014: $3.25 million, 2015: Free Agent

Go Bills.
I know we're all losers for liking the bills....
But why continue to wish for and attract non proven players.??  There is usually a good reason why a player gets demoted constantly.

Kyle Orton?????  Eff Kyle Orton.  He had a chance in Chicago.  He's not good enough.  He had his shot in Denver.   He will do what in Buffalo???  Take us to promised land?  NO.   He will eventually get demoted because he's not good enough.

I would rather get a rookie or a REAL PROVEN WINNER.  Tis why I was upset that we didnt go after Peyton...

I saw a thread for "Joe Flacco, interested?"  Now that is much better.   He constantly takes his team to the playoffs.

Get it???  If you get demoted constantly, then the answer is EFF NO!!!!

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:24 PM

What is being smoked on this baord lately? We are going to draft a guy if we get someone else.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:26 PM

I'd like Orton...if I wanted my team to continue to be mired in mediocrity. I'd rather stick with Fitz.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:55 PM

View PostJerry Jabber, on 06 December 2012 - 11:19 AM, said:

Kyle Orton is a possibility. Another guy is Matt Moore. I'm surprised neither one have been given a shot somewhere to be a starting QB.
Orton has had more than one shot to be a starter, in both Chicago and Denver.  Not sure why anyone believes he is an upgrade.  Moore has career back up written all over him.  You might say "so does Fitz" but hard to see either of these guys as a better choice.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:41 PM

View PostRyan L Billz, on 06 December 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

agree on Orton and Moore.....they are not to be confused with "elite" guys  but are definetly serviceable especially Orton
Doesn't this say it all?  Fitz is servicable too.  I watched Orton quite a bit when he was in Denver, very similar to Fitz (right down to the stupid beard).  Some very good games and some terrible ones.  They both make head scratching throws, especially in the red zone.  Orton has had chances and couldn't stick.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:46 PM

View Postgugny, on 06 December 2012 - 11:14 AM, said:

Flacco and Rivers are already starters on better teams than Buffalo.  Alex Smith sucks.  Sanchez sucks.

Why not Kyle Orton?  This guy fell victim to the Tebow debacle in Denver.  He is, by far, the best backup QB in the game.  He will likely go anywhere to be the undisputed starter.  And most importantly ... he'd be an upgrade over our current QB.  A nice upgrade, at that.

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3/14/2012: Signed a three-year, $10.5 million contract. The deal included a $5 million signing bonus. 2012: $900,000, 2013: $1.35 million, 2014: $3.25 million, 2015: Free Agent

Go Bills.
Alex Smith sucks??? WOW.
Why not Kyle Orton?? Because HE SUCKS! , DYK that when you google Kyle Orton  drunk is one of the top suggestions??

Lets see the other because's -- he lost out to Rex Grossman and  Brian Griese in Chicago,  he lost out to Jay Cutler, Chris Simms and Tim Tebow in Denver, hell he couldn't beat out  Matt Cassel or Tyler Palko in KC and now he's in Dallas.

Edited by BillsFan-4-Ever, 06 December 2012 - 03:48 PM.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:07 PM

View PostMaddog69, on 06 December 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

I wonder what it is about Moore that teams don't like.   I've always thought he played well in the games I've seen him play.
Could it be you where watching play the bills?

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:15 PM

View Poststevestojan, on 06 December 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

Why the hell is THIS pinned? There's about 6 pinned threads that this same question could be asked about. What the hell is going on here?
I leave for two days and come back to pinned threads on Oorton, Smith...SANCHEZ? maybe its time to quit the internet.

Edited by sodbuster, 06 December 2012 - 08:16 PM.