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#1 Ludwig van

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 02:57 PM

I think this is a good step in the right direction

Edited by Ludwig van, 01 January 2013 - 03:26 PM.


#2 Buffalo Barbarian

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:05 PM

View PostLudwig van, on 01 January 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

I think this is monumental for this organization...
Ralph has proved where his heart is..

How is that, exactly?

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:05 PM

Russ Brandon is not his successor. The lease has a buyout. I'm not sure this proves where his heart is..

Edited by jeremy2020, 01 January 2013 - 03:05 PM.


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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:14 PM

The only difference between today and yesterday is that as of today Ralph Wilson is "officially" no longer meddling... I suspect in actuality that nothing is really different between last season and this coming season from an organizational standpoint.  As a fanbase, we can only hope that the "differences" manifest in the coaching search this time around, otherwise, unfortuntately, today's Buffalo Bills are the same as yesterday's Buffalo Bills.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:16 PM

yeah im not sure much has really changed except that ralph is drastically reducing his direct involvement with the team - which may or may not be good news. we really arent much better off than we were before this change in any meaningful way as far as i can see

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:16 PM

View Posttransient, on 01 January 2013 - 03:14 PM, said:

The only difference between today and yesterday is that as of today Ralph Wilson is "officially" no longer meddling... I suspect in actuality that nothing is really different between last season and this coming season from an organizational standpoint.  As a fanbase, we can only hope that the "differences" manifest in the coaching search this time around, otherwise, unfortuntately, today's Buffalo Bills are the same as yesterday's Buffalo Bills.

We have no idea the extent of Ralph's involvement. We can guess, but that is all it is.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:26 PM

View Posttransient, on 01 January 2013 - 03:14 PM, said:

The only difference between today and yesterday is that as of today Ralph Wilson is "officially" no longer meddling... I suspect in actuality that nothing is really different between last season and this coming season from an organizational standpoint.  As a fanbase, we can only hope that the "differences" manifest in the coaching search this time around, otherwise, unfortuntately, today's Buffalo Bills are the same as yesterday's Buffalo Bills.

maybe the curse will now be broken? :cry: :bag:

despite not making the playoffs since 1999 and going 6-10 this year, i actually feel kinda positive going forward.  don't know why.  maybe it's b/c it's near year's day.  no idea.

Edited by bobobonators, 01 January 2013 - 03:26 PM.


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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:28 PM

View Postjeremy2020, on 01 January 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:



We have no idea the extent of Ralph's involvement. We can guess, but that is all it is.

True, but it's hard to imagine that his involvement over the last 1+ years is as much as it has been in years past given his age and recent hospitalization.  I suspect that Brandon's role today is the same as what it was this past season, only now Ralph's made it official.  More to the point, I feel like the press conferece today was marketing a change that had essentially already taken place.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:33 PM

Syracuse native Russ Brandon needs to bring in SU Orange head coach Doug Marrone to be the new head coach of the Bills. Brandon also needs to bring in SU Orange quarterback Ryan Nassib in the 2013 NFL draft.

Edited by PearlHowardman, 01 January 2013 - 03:41 PM.


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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:33 PM

View Posttransient, on 01 January 2013 - 03:28 PM, said:

True, but it's hard to imagine that his involvement over the last 1+ years is as much as it has been in years past given his age and recent hospitalization.  I suspect that Brandon's role today is the same as what it was this past season, only now Ralph's made it official.  More to the point, I feel like the press conferece today was marketing a change that had essentially already taken place.

It's hard to imagine that Al Davis still made decisions and that Bud Smith still makes football decisions. They do.

I think the change was likely to have already been decided during the season.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:36 PM

Please stop with the Doug Marone nonsense!  Haven't we experienced enough non-entities already in the last decade?

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:39 PM

View Postjeremy2020, on 01 January 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

It's hard to imagine that Al Davis still made decisions and that Bud Smith still makes football decisions. They do.

I think the change was likely to have already been decided during the season.

Al Davis still makes decisions. He just uses the psychic network to mind meld in his decisions.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:40 PM

View PostLudwig van, on 01 January 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

I think this is a good step in the right direction

Agree 100%  - nothing prevented the Bills from hiring quality coaches more than the knowledge that the team had an old meddling owner
that consistently lost and when they did win he fired those that brought the success.
All the reason why to go so public today - let all know - the meddling owner is gone - making the job way more attractive

#14 Al Cowlings

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:43 PM

View PostPearlHowardman, on 01 January 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

Syracuse native Russ Brandon needs to bring in SU Orange head coach Doug Marrone to be the new head coach of the Bills. Brandon also needs to bring in SU Orange quarterback Ryan Nassib in the 2013 NFL draft.
Oh boy.  Wrong and wrong.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:46 PM

View PostLudwig van, on 01 January 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

I think this is a good step in the right direction

Interesting take.

#16 Kevin

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:47 PM

Two things have changed. Ralph doesn't make the final decision anymore, and the coaching staff was fired.

The fans got their wish. I'll reserve my judgement for 3 years.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:10 PM

I think that today is a day that all Bills fans should feel good about.

In my opinion, Nix has done a great job as a GM. Believe me when I say I know you can't look at the season and say "what if," but with that being said, if you look at the bills 2012 season, we certainly appear to be right on the doorstep of greatness. As hard as it may be to believe, we were really only 4 plays away from winning the AFC east. Buckle your seat belt for a few "ifs."

If CJ doesn't fumble that ball going into the endzone against the Patriots, but instead scores a TD;
if Fitz somehow throws a TD on the last play against the Patriots in foxboro;
if our D stops the titans on their last drive;
and if our D stops the rams on their last drive;

were 10-6, the patriots are 10-6, and we win the division.

I know that seems ludacris and far-fetched, but it just goes to show that the difference between 12-4 and 6-10 isn't that drastic.

So, with that being said, you look at today, and it's easier to imagine someone like Schottenheime or Cowher coming to take the reigns. Couple that with even a mediocre starting qb, and the Bills seem to be on the fast track to being relavant again. I hope.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:31 PM

View PostJohnnyGold, on 01 January 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

I think that today is a day that all Bills fans should feel good about.

In my opinion, Nix has done a great job as a GM. Believe me when I say I know you can't look at the season and say "what if," but with that being said, if you look at the bills 2012 season, we certainly appear to be right on the doorstep of greatness. As hard as it may be to believe, we were really only 4 plays away from winning the AFC east. Buckle your seat belt for a few "ifs."

If CJ doesn't fumble that ball going into the endzone against the Patriots, but instead scores a TD;
if Fitz somehow throws a TD on the last play against the Patriots in foxboro;
if our D stops the titans on their last drive;
and if our D stops the rams on their last drive;

were 10-6, the patriots are 10-6, and we win the division.

I know that seems ludacris and far-fetched, but it just goes to show that the difference between 12-4 and 6-10 isn't that drastic.

So, with that being said, you look at today, and it's easier to imagine someone like Schottenheime or Cowher coming to take the reigns. Couple that with even a mediocre starting qb, and the Bills seem to be on the fast track to being relavant again. I hope.

Fine line between "doorstep and doormat.

As for those 4 plays away, you do realize the same argument can be made in some of the teams" wins". AZ immediately comes to mind.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:33 PM

View PostLudwig van, on 01 January 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

I think this is a good step in the right direction

I do not like your audible by editing your post.....own it.....Who owns the Chiefs?  OWNS OWNS OWNS

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:35 PM

View Postjeremy2020, on 01 January 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

Russ Brandon is not his successor. The lease has a buyout. I'm not sure this proves where his heart is..

Every lease in the NFL has a buyout.