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#1 eball

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:05 PM

Positives:

Roster:

-- Game-breaking RB (Spiller)
-- 1000-yd WR three times running (Stevie)
-- Above-average OL with depth (need to re-sign Levitre)
-- Above-average DL with depth
-- Young, talented secondary (contingent upon re-signing Byrd)
-- 8th overall pick in 2013 Draft

Front Office:

-- Removal of meddlesome owner from day-to-day operations
-- Progressive, forward-thinking 43-year-old President/CEO
-- Organization adding analytics department to assist in player evaluation
-- 40-year-old GM-in-waiting who is highly respected
-- GM recognized as a top scout/talent evaluator

Miscellaneous:

-- Home game atmosphere one of best in league
-- Chance to restore proud franchise to greatness (i.e., can be a hero)

Negatives:

Roster:

-- No "franchise" QB
-- Questionable WR depth
-- Weak LB corps

Front Office:

-- 73-year-old GM still running the show (for how long?)
-- Do you trust Brandon not to meddle in football decisions?

Miscellaneous:

-- Relic of a stadium (what improvements are being made?)
-- Impatient fan base

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I dunno, it doesn't look like a bad gig to me...

#2 Rockinon

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:08 PM

I'd take that job......not that they'd want me.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:09 PM

What job is perfect?   You forgot to mention "lease ensures team stays put for at least 7 years."  We are certainly more attractive than 3 years ago.

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Edited by PromoTheRobot, 02 January 2013 - 04:10 PM.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:16 PM

The fact that if he can get a winning season/playoffs the first/second season  will make him the second coming of Christ in Buffalo and that Russ has the salesman way of focusing on the good things and making the bad things not so bad alone would make me consider taking the job. When you factor in everything else, I see it as one of the more attractive places to get a new HC job this season

View Posteball, on 02 January 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Positives:

Roster:

-- Game-breaking RB (Spiller)
-- 1000-yd WR three times running (Stevie)
-- Above-average OL with depth (need to re-sign Levitre)
-- Above-average DL with depth
-- Young, talented secondary (contingent upon re-signing Byrd)
-- 8th overall pick in 2013 Draft

Front Office:

-- Removal of meddlesome owner from day-to-day operations
-- Progressive, forward-thinking 43-year-old President/CEO
-- Organization adding analytics department to assist in player evaluation
-- 40-year-old GM-in-waiting who is highly respected
-- GM recognized as a top scout/talent evaluator

Miscellaneous:

-- Home game atmosphere one of best in league
-- Chance to restore proud franchise to greatness (i.e., can be a hero)

Negatives:

Roster:

-- No "franchise" QB
-- Questionable WR depth
-- Weak LB corps

Front Office:

-- 73-year-old GM still running the show (for how long?)
-- Do you trust Brandon not to meddle in football decisions?

Miscellaneous:

-- Relic of a stadium (what improvements are being made?)
-- Impatient fan base
-- Buffalo weather
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I dunno, it doesn't look like a bad gig to me...
I would have considered the newly added bolded, underlined, and italicized under negative miscellaneous also.

Edited by Teen Insight, 02 January 2013 - 04:19 PM.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:16 PM

Another positive:  Short season.  You know you'll only have to work 16 games.  None of that pesky overtime that some guys have to put in during January & February.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:18 PM

If I'm a HC candidate what do I see?

I see a brown bear looking at me!

Anyone with kids can appreciate that.

GO BILLS!!!

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:19 PM

Biggest negative is unstable ownership.  Most of the time, new ownership = new head coach.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:22 PM

View PostBlueFire, on 02 January 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

Biggest negative is unstable ownership.  Most of the time, new ownership = new head coach.

I have a feeling Brandon is privy to some things he can share in confidence with any HC candidate who has those concerns.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:26 PM

leaving out the ownership situation kind of submarines the whole post, honestly. 94 year old owner without public succession plan is a major issue that needs to be addressed with anyone coming on.

i think there are some behind closed doors answers that could be shared in the right situation, but to totally ignore that issue in a pro/con of the job isnt honest.

View Posteball, on 02 January 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:



I have a feeling Brandon is privy to some things he can share in confidence with any HC candidate who has those concerns.

i had a sneaking suspicion that they might have doled some of that information with mario. giving 100m and a long term commitment, he likely wanted some sort of assurance that he wouldnt be moving cities and auditioning for new ownership in 6 months (i know that sounds morbid, but its a reality).

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:28 PM

View Posteball, on 02 January 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Positives:

Roster:

-- Game-breaking RB (Spiller)
-- 1000-yd WR three times running (Stevie)
-- Above-average OL with depth (need to re-sign Levitre)
-- Above-average DL with depth
-- Young, talented secondary (contingent upon re-signing Byrd)
-- 8th overall pick in 2013 Draft

Front Office:

-- Removal of meddlesome owner from day-to-day operations
-- Progressive, forward-thinking 43-year-old President/CEO
-- Organization adding analytics department to assist in player evaluation
-- 40-year-old GM-in-waiting who is highly respected
-- GM recognized as a top scout/talent evaluator

Miscellaneous:

-- Home game atmosphere one of best in league
-- Chance to restore proud franchise to greatness (i.e., can be a hero)

Negatives:

Roster:

-- No "franchise" QB
-- Questionable WR depth
-- Weak LB corps

Front Office:

-- 73-year-old GM still running the show (for how long?)
-- Do you trust Brandon not to meddle in football decisions?

Miscellaneous:

-- Relic of a stadium (what improvements are being made?)
-- Impatient fan base

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I dunno, it doesn't look like a bad gig to me...

View Posteball, on 02 January 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Positives:

Roster:

-- Game-breaking RB (Spiller)
-- 1000-yd WR three times running (Stevie)
-- Above-average OL with depth (need to re-sign Levitre)
-- Above-average DL with depth
-- Young, talented secondary (contingent upon re-signing Byrd)
-- 8th overall pick in 2013 Draft

Front Office:

-- Removal of meddlesome owner from day-to-day operations
-- Progressive, forward-thinking 43-year-old President/CEO
-- Organization adding analytics department to assist in player evaluation
-- 40-year-old GM-in-waiting who is highly respected
-- GM recognized as a top scout/talent evaluator

Miscellaneous:

-- Home game atmosphere one of best in league
-- Chance to restore proud franchise to greatness (i.e., can be a hero)

Negatives:

Roster:

-- No "franchise" QB
-- Questionable WR depth
-- Weak LB corps

Front Office:

-- 73-year-old GM still running the show (for how long?)
-- Do you trust Brandon not to meddle in football decisions?

Miscellaneous:

-- Relic of a stadium (what improvements are being made?)
-- Impatient fan base

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I dunno, it doesn't look like a bad gig to me...

What a difference 3 years makes. There are 2 dozen coaches reportedly inquiring about the Bills Job this year versus 3 years ago when there were tumbleweeds in the Bills inbox. Guess Buddy did add some depth and talent to the roster afterall. This job is now attractive and the interest by these coaches shows it.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:30 PM

Seriously, if I'm an HC candidate, I see an opportunity to forge a legend in one of only 32 available positions in the world.

GO BILLS!!!

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:30 PM

How about the division the Bills are in?

That could be viewed as a negative or positive

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:33 PM

Getting a great defensive coach and Chip Kelly would be huge.  I don't care who has the title for head coach, but Kelly would have a ball with our OL and CJ.  And a good defensive coach could do wonders for this team.

Edited by Rockinon, 02 January 2013 - 04:34 PM.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:37 PM

View PostLVBillsBackr, on 02 January 2013 - 04:28 PM, said:

There are 2 dozen coaches reportedly inquiring about the Bills Job this year versus 3 years ago when there were tumbleweeds in the Bills inbox.

You should not be able to make a statement like this without a link.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:38 PM

Don't forget only 7 home games with one farmed out to a mausoleum in Toronto.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:48 PM

A challenge to anybody who relishes that kind of problem.  A team that doesn't know how to win.  That IS a skil, and is know to winners.   We haven't seen that since the glory days.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:53 PM

View PostBlueFire, on 02 January 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

Biggest negative is unstable ownership.  Most of the time, new ownership = new head coach.
New ownership= new GM, president, HC.

If this new job title for Brandon doesn't involve actually creating, and building a winning franchise. Then I can envision everybody being gone with new ownership.

It starts with a finding new 'winning" HC and QB, a very daunting task for even someone who already is a top NFL executive.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 06:27 PM

View PostBillnutinHouston, on 02 January 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

You should not be able to make a statement like this without a link.

View PostBillnutinHouston, on 02 January 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

You should not be able to make a statement like this without a link.
Your right sorry. I read it on the articles TBD posts. When I find the article I will post the link.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:00 PM

View PostK-9, on 02 January 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

If I'm a HC candidate what do I see?

I see a brown bear looking at me!

Anyone with kids can appreciate that.

GO BILLS!!!
Awesome. It's exactly what I thought when I read thread title.

If I'm a sought after coach, I look for the team with a franchise QB.  If I'm a retread, I latch on where ever I can.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:05 PM

View Posteball, on 02 January 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Positives:

Roster:

-- Game-breaking RB (Spiller)
-- 1000-yd WR three times running (Stevie)
-- Above-average OL with depth (need to re-sign Levitre)
-- Above-average DL with depth
-- Young, talented secondary (contingent upon re-signing Byrd)
-- 8th overall pick in 2013 Draft

Front Office:

-- Removal of meddlesome owner from day-to-day operations
-- Progressive, forward-thinking 43-year-old President/CEO
-- Organization adding analytics department to assist in player evaluation
-- 40-year-old GM-in-waiting who is highly respected
-- GM recognized as a top scout/talent evaluator

Miscellaneous:

-- Home game atmosphere one of best in league
-- Chance to restore proud franchise to greatness (i.e., can be a hero)

Negatives:

Roster:

-- No "franchise" QB
-- Questionable WR depth
-- Weak LB corps

Front Office:

-- 73-year-old GM still running the show (for how long?)
-- Do you trust Brandon not to meddle in football decisions?

Miscellaneous:

-- Relic of a stadium (what improvements are being made?)
-- Impatient fan base

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I dunno, it doesn't look like a bad gig to me...

Thank you for a well thought post.

The only thing I will do wrt your list is agree with the poster who cited the weather, and question 2 of the 3 negatives.
The wr corps needs more than depth. After SJ, they are pedestrian at best. An injury to #13 would make them perhaps the worst in the NFL. The LB corps, although I haven't seen them all, probably IS the worst in the NFL. Coming into the season, Barnett was good. Now, no LB is. They are all terrible. A coach/GM would have to fill these 2 gaping holes, AND get us a qb. This would seem to be a daunting task.

  Long time fans like you and I know what to look for. If Goodell strolls up to the podium and announces that the Bills select Dee Milner at #8, all is lost for many more seasons. We need to fill the above holes, and most of all field a good quarterback to play this new brand of football.

  Jmo.