[closed]Name The Head Coach(es) You're Against The Bills Getting
Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:35 AM
I don't get the dislike for Whiz or Lovie. Sure both guys have their issues, but both have been to the Super Bowl *twice* (once as coordinators, once as Head Coaches) and while both lost, both have been there and know what it takes to get there. Not ALL losses are on coaches, GMs and players need some blame as well. Plus from what I've heard and read both guys are universally respected by players, coaches and pundits alike - I really don't think we'll be in bad shape with either...
Same goes with Kelly, while unproven in the NFL and a huge risk, the guy could revolutionize how offense is played in the NFL. Plus he clearly has the respect of other pro coaches and even has NFL connections (there was a story that mentioned he's considering staff for his new NFL job that includes guys have have coached in the NFL).
Heck, even the coordinators that are on our short list get generally good reviews from those in the league (I listen to way too much Sirius NFL radio and watch too much NFLN).
Unlike our last coaching search I really, really feel that we're going to end up with the best guy for us. It's not a choice between Chan Gailey or, well, Chan Gailey.
Bring it on, I say - any way you look at it, our coaching is going to take a leap from last year!!
Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:40 AM
His signing looks more imminent now.
And I am affraid you are right. it sounds like Whaley likes him a lot. Unfortunate
Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:44 AM
It would seem like, as of this moment, Whisenhunt is by far the favorite...but then again he and Horton have been the only two to interview. If we are still hearing how much the Bills like him after Monday, then you know he's a slam dunk to come here.
Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:46 AM
The only way I'd be happy about Lovie is if he brought in a true innovator on offense. I don't want to see our team become one that relies solely on D.
Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:57 AM
Edited by Just in Atlanta, 04 January 2013 - 11:58 AM.
Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:59 AM
Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:04 PM
Ken Whisenhunt - Not impressed with his conservative in game management. Concerned about his ability to hire competent assistant coaches and groom a young quarterback. Apparently in Arizona he had issues with judging player personnel.
Grimm - This won't happen.
Ray Horton - I can't see this happening as well.
Wisenhunt a noted OC before being his hired as a HC, like Gailey doesn't know a good QB from a bad one by watching previous film on him. His O line regressed badly to one of the worst in the NFL this season. I mean if a HC who was an ex OC can't build a decent offense, then what good is he?
Larry Fitzgerald, one of the very best WR's in the game is languishing in Arizona because Wisenhunt couldn't find a decent QB. That is
His signing looks more imminent now.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:30 PM
I'm telling you I love this, LOL. Don't forget Chan Gailey...My candidate that I'm praying that we do NOT get is Oregon coach Kelly. I just don't think his gimmick offense will work against NFL talent once these coaches get enough film on his down & distances tendencies...plus he has NO NFL experience of any kind.
Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:31 PM
- Kelly has a chance to be special. There's a lot to like about him as a team leader and an offensive guru.
- Smith, if paired with a good OC can be a very good coach. I'm just worried he'll be coming to a downgraded version of the bears (talent wise).
- McCoy seems to do great things with QBs so he makes a lot of sense in that regard. Not sure how he'd do on the other side of the ball.
- Whisenhunt and Horton are a package deal in my mind. I'm not sure if I'd want one without the other. I like both of their pedigrees but their work in Arizona doesnt exactly scream success.
Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:35 PM
Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:20 AM
Plus if you go by the worst name possible thoery that the Bills are following it would have to be Whisenhunt.
Mike MULARKEY, Ggregg Williams, DICK MURON, CHAN GAYley.
Chip Kelly - Fails Horrible Name test - good name.
Mike McCoy - Fails Name test -good name.
Lovie Smith - Fails Horrible Name Test - a Little extravagant but still a good sounding name. (Now if it were Hatie Smith the Bills would be in teh running)
Andy Reid - Fails HorribleName test Just a Solid Name
Ray Horton - Fails Horrible Name Test - Not a great name but still not terrible
Ken Whisenhunt - ding ding ding ding - That Sounds like we have a winner!
Plus when he has 3 years of losing you can change the H to a C - Ding Ding Ding. This guy is a shoe in for the job.
What a Marrone!
However I would be concerned to varying degrees.
Most Concerned A: Andy Reid - I'm glad it doesn't appear the Bills are hiring Reid. this Dude needs to take a couple years off. Didn't he have two sons die? His family life is all F-ed up. He needs to go rest and recuperatie with a therapist. I would just expect to have a mental breakdown at some point.
Most Concerned B: Ken Wheisenhunt - It was nice to have Kurt Warner. Kurt Warner ain't coming to Buffalo so whatcha going to Ken? Oh, create another QB debacle. (Also if Ken Whisenhunt goes elsewhere outside of Buffalo I would say that Chan Gailey would be high on his list as OC. So who would his OC be if he goes to Buffalo.
Second Most Concerned: Lovie Smith - I hate hate hate "system" guys. To paraphrase Wade Philips, Wade said its the job of the coach to take the talent you have and make it work. Not make the talent you have do something it may not be capable of doing. Coach the players and adapt the system not the other way around. I think he could get an OC though.
Then you have the unprovens in order of concern:
Mike McCoy - Peyton Manning's OC? Yeah thats a tough job. Right up there with practice Squad QB for the San Diego Chargers. Surf, bang hotties, show up to practice, surf, bang hotties, sell good tix to the game. Peyton "Hey OC don't get in my way" Mike McCoy" Yes sir"
Ray Horton: - I love what he did on the defensive side of the ball in AZ. Even when they were crap there defense was a unit you generally didn't want to play. They got run down in the 4th because they basically had the University of Phoenix Offense going 3 and out on every possession. Who would he get to be the OC? Some QB coach from Pittsburgh. Would he be able to hire an experienced hire at OC? Those are major areas of concern.
Chip Kelly: - CJ Spiller and TJ Graham in the back field (because why would you have Graham run routes with that speed. Just do some crazy flip the ball to TJ Graham screen plays) Would be crazy interesting to watch. Could be a huge disaster as the NFL LBs are all teh fastest dudes on all of the college teams. You can pinpoint your attach against the EEE major at Stanford, everyone is a college all star LB. So they can track down those plays. It would either be a Boom and unstopable or be a bust and laughable; No in between. Plus Chip Kelly appears to have some Iron Gonads. I don't see him punting from INSIDE THE OPPONENTS 40!!!
So I guess I would most like Chip Kelly but I wouldn't hate any of the above outright.
Kind of typical they go with the guy that wasn't even on my list.