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#1 matter2003

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:05 PM

I keep hearing how Dalton's a good young QB, but to me he just looks like a younger version of Fitz. They had nearly identical stats this year and that dreadful performance today against Houston looked mighty Fitz like...

Dalton is just a younger Fitzpatrick...I am glad the Bills didn't draft him...

#2 Bangarang

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:12 PM

I said Dalton's potential was a marginally better Fitz before the draft. People started creaming themselves over him and bad mouthed Buddy for passing on him.

People are finally coming to their senses.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:17 PM

We watch football differently when it's not the Bills playing. I was waiting for someone to comment on Dalton's play. How would we react if it was the Bills instead of the Bengals?

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:20 PM

View PostPromoTheRobot, on 05 January 2013 - 08:17 PM, said:

We watch football differently when it's not the Bills playing. I was waiting for someone to comment on Dalton's play. How would we react if it was the Bills instead of the Bengals?

His ribs would have been broken :)

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:22 PM

View Postmatter2003, on 05 January 2013 - 08:05 PM, said:

I keep hearing how Dalton's a good young QB, but to me he just looks like a younger version of Fitz. They had nearly identical stats this year and that dreadful performance today against Houston looked mighty Fitz like...

Dalton is just a younger Fitzpatrick...I am glad the Bills didn't draft him...

Don't let alphadawg hear you say that. He gave me a ton of sh*t for saying the same thing about a month ago.

#6 Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:24 PM

All these guys, you need to give them at least three years for good or bad before you really say, this guy gets' it or not.  There's a long line of players who had promising rookie years, but then tailed off.  I'm not completely sold on Russell Wilson either for same reasons.  Lets see how he looks in a couple of years.  The thing that will likely hurt Wilson is there are now too many of these read option type QB's around so defenses will spend the time and effort to figure out how to stop it. If he were the only one and say you're NE who only see's him once every four years, how much effort are are you going toput into figuring him out.  But now you have Wilson , RG3, Newton,, and even Tannerhill to a lesser degree.

Also have A.C. Green didn't hurt him much either.  Maybe he just had a bad day today, but lets see how he looks in a couple of years first.

I think that's a big reason why Buddy didn't select someone like him, or Wilson this year.  They were all viewed as marginally better than Fitz at best. Granted the way this season went for Fitz, it probably turned out to be more than marginal, but none of these guys were viewed as true franchise QB's either by BN.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:28 PM

View Postmatter2003, on 05 January 2013 - 08:05 PM, said:

I keep hearing how Dalton's a good young QB, but to me he just looks like a younger version of Fitz. They had nearly identical stats this year and that dreadful performance today against Houston looked mighty Fitz like...

Dalton is just a younger Fitzpatrick...I am glad the Bills didn't draft him...
Only stat that matters: Dalton   10-6 Fitzpatrick   6-10

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:32 PM

View PostBuffaloPride, on 05 January 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

Only stat that matters: Dalton   10-6 Fitzpatrick   6-10

Yeah good call. There's not 52 other players on a roster or anything...

If Dalton didn't have Greene he'd be so much worse. Not trying to stick up for Fitz, but he never had anyone who could bail him out on jump balls like Dalton has.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:33 PM

View PostBuffaloPride, on 05 January 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

Only stat that matters: Dalton   10-6 Fitzpatrick   6-10

See, here I thought those were team stats.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:34 PM

View PostBuffaloPride, on 05 January 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

Only stat that matters:     Dalton   10-6         Fitzpatrick   6-10

Ben Jarvis Green-Ellis 10-6

CJ Spiller 6-10

See how much fun this is?

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:35 PM

2nd year in the league, I will wait to compare. One thing for certain is Dalton doesnt have a noodle arm.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:37 PM

View Postbillsfan_34, on 05 January 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

2nd year in the league, I will wait to compare. One thing for certain is Dalton doesnt have a noodle arm.
He also cant throw the deep ball. Its more about touch. All these guys can throw it 50 yards, hell I could when I was 16

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:40 PM

@NFL_ATL
Why the Bengals should be concerned about Dalton http://www.nfl.com/n...cinnati-bengals

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:40 PM

View PostThurmal34, on 05 January 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

Ben Jarvis Green-Ellis 10-6

CJ Spiller 6-10

See how much fun this is?
Save that for another thread.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:44 PM

View PostBuffaloPride, on 05 January 2013 - 08:40 PM, said:

Save that for another thread.

Is this advice to yourself? Don't start that argument if you don't want to hear counterpoints.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:45 PM

View PostCaptain Hindsight, on 05 January 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

He also cant throw the deep ball. Its more about touch. All these guys can throw it 50 yards, hell I could when I was 16



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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:51 PM

View PostMarcellosaurus, on 05 January 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

Is this advice to yourself? Don't start that argument if you don't want to hear counterpoints.
The OP was comparing Dalton to Fitzpatrick.

#18 matter2003

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:54 PM

View Postbillsfan_34, on 05 January 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

2nd year in the league, I will wait to compare. One thing for certain is Dalton doesnt have a noodle arm.

Yeah that overthrow of a wide open Green with 3 minutes left in the game that would have been a TD looked amazingly like Fitz...

Noodle arm or not his deep balls leave a lot to be desired...

View PostBuffaloPride, on 05 January 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:

The OP was comparing Dalton to Fitzpatrick.

Because if you look at there stats this year they were basically the same player...Spiller and Green-Ellis? Not much of a comparison there...

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:55 PM

View PostBuffaloPride, on 05 January 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

Only stat that matters: Dalton   10-6 Fitzpatrick   6-10
And Andy Dalton - 2 seasons - 2 playoff appearances (0-2).
Fitz Patrick  - Almost 3 full season of QB play -  playoff appearances  (ZERO).

The Texans Defense was pretty stifling today. Wade Phillips called an awesome game today.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:55 PM

I watch a lot of Cinci, Dalton would be avg at best without AJ Green. Dalton is not all that great.