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Using "Air Yards" to compare Fitz to other QBs...nope, our eye


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#1 matter2003

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:15 PM

I found a few sites that calculate "Air Yards", which are the number of yards a QB throws a ball in the air and doesn't count YAC yards for the receiver.

Well, this year, Fitz was 37th in the NFL in "Air Yards per completion" with 4.95...meaning the average distance his passes traveled in the air per completion was 4.95 yards.  So the stats back up exactly what our eyes told us...the ball rarely traveled very far downfield for his completions...

A very surprising name was 38th, directly below Fitz, and that was Phillip Rivers, coming in at 4.93...

Nick Foles was 38th at 4.88 and Christian Ponder was dead last in 40th place at a paltry 4.07...

Top 5:
Colin Kaepernick 8.07
Andrew Luck 7.80
Eli Manning 7.75
Mark Sanchez 7.55
Josh Freeman 7.47

Edited by matter2003, 05 January 2013 - 11:39 PM.


#2 sodbuster

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:26 PM

Imo, Kaep has too small of a sample size, but that takes nothing away from the point of this. I'm just knitpicking because I have nothing better to do.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:29 PM

Do they calculate "error" yards?  The distance the ball travels without any hope of being caught?  Fitz would be a leader there I think.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:32 PM

View PostGreen Lightning, on 05 January 2013 - 11:29 PM, said:

Do they calculate "error" yards?  The distance the ball travels without any hope of being caught?  Fitz would be a leader there I think.

You saw Mark Sanchez play this year didnt you?

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:33 PM

72 ounce steak in 49 minutes

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:35 PM

View Postmatter2003, on 05 January 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:

I found a few sites that calculate "Air Yards", which are the number of yards a QB throws a ball in the air and doesn't count YAC yards for the receiver.

Well, this year, Fitz was 37th in the NFL in "Air Yards per completion" with 4.95...meaning the average distance his passes traveled in the air per completion was 4.95 yards.  So the stats back up exactly what our eyes told us...the ball rarely traveled very far downfield for his completions...

A very surprising name was 38th, directly below Fitz, and that was Phillip Rivers, coming in at 4.93...

Nick Foles was 38th at 4.88 and Christian onder was dead last in 40th place at a paltry 4.07...

Top 5:
Colin Kaepernick 8.07
Andrew Luck 7.80
Eli Manning 7.75
Mark Sanchez 7.55
Josh Freeman 7.47

Are you saying we should be trying to pick up Sanchez? :sick:

All this says is that Fitz in gGiley's offense relied on the receivers abilities to gain YAC. In a spread screen offense, it is to be expected that "air yards/ attempt" would be low. Montana, Starr, Unitas, Kelly, Elway... they wouldn't have high "air yards" either in such an offense.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:35 PM

I am not sure what this proves.  If the play call is a screen pass that's the call no matter who the QB is.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:37 PM

View Postjr1, on 05 January 2013 - 11:33 PM, said:

72 ounce steak in 49 minutes

That's just crackerdogs. In 49 minutes?

View Postmob16151, on 05 January 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:



You saw Mark Sanchez play this year didnt you?

Fair point.

#9 matter2003

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:40 PM

View Postover 20 years of fanhood, on 05 January 2013 - 11:35 PM, said:

I am not sure what this proves.  If the play call is a screen pass that's the call no matter who the QB is.

It shows the relatively ineffectiveness of his deep passing attempts, and also the lack of deep passing attempts

Edited by matter2003, 05 January 2013 - 11:40 PM.


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:55 PM

The sooner we look past Fitz, the faster we become a better team.  He's awful, let it go.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:23 AM

View Postmatter2003, on 05 January 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:

I found a few sites that calculate "Air Yards", which are the number of yards a QB throws a ball in the air and doesn't count YAC yards for the receiver.

Linkies, please?

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:47 AM

All these advanced metrics mean nothing.  Simply put, Fitz should not be a starter in the NFL.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 08:55 AM

View PostHopeful, on 06 January 2013 - 08:23 AM, said:

Linkies, please?

the  links would be for Air Yards per attempt, which I then took and turned into air yards per completion, which gives a better picture of completed passes...

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:09 AM

Anybody track the passes that we're on target but not caught, through the hands?

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:15 AM

I suspect that the Bills screen game would impact negatively on this stat.  Run the same numbers for those passes completed to TEs and WRs and then compare.