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[DallasBillsFan1]

How did that kick at the end of the play NOT get flagged?
And what was that???  What a sissy kick.
It's like "Hey man, I'll do anything not to get hit, including kicking and tripping you."

Congrats to Baltimore for manhandling the Patriots.

[justnzane]

In soccer, that can be a red card offense. That is so douchebaggish that it should only be expected from Brady.

[NoSaint]

DallasBillsFan1, on 20 January 2013 - 11:20 PM, said:

How did that kick at the end of the play NOT get flagged?
And what was that???  What a sissy kick.
It's like "Hey man, I'll do anything not to get hit, including kicking and tripping you."

Congrats to Baltimore for manhandling the Patriots.

Honest question: what's the penalty? I've never seen a raised leg called on a slide.

[PromoTheRobot]

NoSaint, on 20 January 2013 - 11:30 PM, said:

Honest question: what's the penalty? I've never seen a raised leg called on a slide.

It was pretty obvious Brady was trying to kick Ed Reed while sliding.

[DallasBillsFan1]

NoSaint, on 20 January 2013 - 11:30 PM, said:

Honest question: what's the penalty? I've never seen a raised leg called on a slide.

I know I know ... seems like unsportmanlike conduct, but you are right, not technically a penalty.

[Faustus]

NoSaint, on 20 January 2013 - 11:30 PM, said:

Honest question: what's the penalty? I've never seen a raised leg called on a slide.

I would say personal foul, unnecessary roughness. I'm not sure about the rule book, but that's the type of play that gets fined by the league. Not in this case, of course....

[Hopeful]

DallasBillsFan1, on 20 January 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

I know I know ... seems like unsportmanlike conduct, but you are right, not technically a penalty.

I think it's technically a penalty.

The point of a QB slide is the quarterback "gives himself up" by sliding feet-first and the ball is considered "down by contact"
The defender can be penalized if he could reasonably avoid hitting the QB (hasn't "committed himself" prior to the slide).  I don't see why the offensive player shouldn't be penalized for unnecessarily hitting a defensive player after he's "given himself up" and the play is over (ie raising his leg to kick)

I'm fairly sure the Ravens found it motivational though

[jimmyo]

That was such a supreme b*tch move by the biggest b*tch QB of them all. Penalty or no penalty.

[KD in CT]

He's a great QB but Brady has always been a kitty.   He could have run for a first on that 4th and 4 when they still had a chance but he was scared of getting hit.

[The Wiz]

KD in CT, on 20 January 2013 - 11:42 PM, said:

He's a great QB but Brady has always been a kitty.   He could have run for a first on that 4th and 4 when they still had a chance but he was scared of getting hit.

After that ref manhandled him earlier in the game I would be too.

[NoSaint]

PromoTheRobot, on 20 January 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

It was pretty obvious Brady was trying to kick Ed Reed while sliding.

So your the ref- you throw the flag and then what's the call you make?

Faustus, on 20 January 2013 - 11:37 PM, said:

I would say personal foul, unnecessary roughness. I'm not sure about the rule book, but that's the type of play that gets fined by the league. Not in this case, of course....

What other similar plays were fined?

[Derek in Va]

I really hope the media crucifies him for that move, but we all know that Prince Brady doesn't get attacked

[JaxBills]

DallasBillsFan1, on 20 January 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

I know I know ... seems like unsportmanlike conduct, but you are right, not technically a penalty.

isnt tripping called for offensive players?

[Faustus]

NoSaint, on 20 January 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:

So your the ref- you throw the flag and then what's the call you make?



What other similar plays were fined?

Cheap shot plays intended to do nothing but hurt the opposing players. Diving into knees, stepping on hands, you can look up fined cheap shots if you want to. I've already answered what I think the penalty would be called. Obviously you don't agree, easier to just say so, don't you think?

[NoSaint]

Faustus, on 20 January 2013 - 11:52 PM, said:

Cheap shot plays intended to do nothing but hurt the opposing players. Diving into knees, stepping on hands, you can look up fined cheap shots if you want to. I've already answered what I think the penalty would be called. Obviously you don't agree, easier to just say so, don't you think?

The first half was directed at promo asking his call. Lots of people calling for a flag but I haven't seen any consensus on what, if any, penalty is called. I genuinely don't know the rule book cover to cover here, and haven't seen a penalty ever discussed for a qb on a slide.

The fine question I think is a fair one to know what you are equating it to

Edited by NoSaint, 20 January 2013 - 11:59 PM.

[The Wiz]

JaxBills, on 20 January 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

isnt tripping called for offensive players?

Called on both sides of the ball actually.  Probably never see it called on the defense though.

Edited by The Wiz, 20 January 2013 - 11:57 PM.

[ganesh]

KD in CT, on 20 January 2013 - 11:42 PM, said:

He's a great QB but Brady has always been a kitty.   He could have run for a first on that 4th and 4 when they still had a chance but he was scared of getting hit.

To be fair, he saw an open man in the end zone and threw it in.  If you see that kind of opening, you take the chance every time.  You get a TD with the play instead of a first down.

Has any of the Patriots complained yet about the missed first down because the referee was in  Tom Brady's path.  That had to suck.

[Faustus]

NoSaint, on 20 January 2013 - 11:54 PM, said:

The first half was directed at promo asking his call. Lots of people calling for a flag but I haven't seen any consensus on what, if any, penalty is called. I genuinely don't know the rule book cover to cover here, and haven't seen a penalty ever discussed for a qb on a slide.

The fine question I think is a fair one to know what you are equating it to

Click the link and do a search for: "Kicking or kneeing opponent"
http://static.nfl.co...- Rule Book.pdf

[NDBUFFCUSEFAN]

Playing against a D that is known for rough play and he puts his leg up, obviously big dirtbag.

[BigCountryBills]

Tom Brady is a punk. We need to play him rough next year. At 36 he needs to be pounded.