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[WotAGuy]

Watching Ray Lewis at the end of the game last night, kneeling on the field - butt crack showing and dozens of photographers surrounding him in a circle - and then listening to him talk about God....well, it seemed a bit "over the top" to me.

But then I started thinking maybe it's not all that different than what Tebow does, in terms of how Tim presents his faith in God on the field and in interviews.

To me, my faith and my relationship with God are intensely personal and intimate, but I understand not everyone feels that way.

So, I'm interested in people's opinions about their reaction to Ray Lewis' post-game actions/words on his faith, and how that compares to people's perceptions about Tim Tebow's actions/words on his faith.

This is strictly related to how they present this to the public as part of their football (professional) personas.

[Magox]

Ray Lewis does it, Ok

Tebow does it, Bad

[Chimp]

Intimate and personal, good for you.  Say for a moment everyone kept their faith as you do, intimate and personal.  What happens then?

[JÂy RÛßeÒ]

Obviously God likes Ray Lewis more.

[eball]

 Chimp, on 21 January 2013 - 01:55 PM, said:

Intimate and personal, good for you.  Say for a moment everyone kept their faith as you do, intimate and personal.  What happens then?

Sounds pretty freaking good to me.

[jeremy2020]

 Chimp, on 21 January 2013 - 01:55 PM, said:

Intimate and personal, good for you.  Say for a moment everyone kept their faith as you do, intimate and personal.  What happens then?

way less war?

[Cugalabanza]

 eball, on 21 January 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:

Sounds pretty freaking good to me.

Amen

[drinkTHEkoolaid]

One is a murderer, the other does charity.

Guess who the media portrays in a better perspective

[26CornerBlitz]

God blessed one of them with HOF caliber talent and the other he did not.

[MOVALLEYRANDY]

 drinkTHEkoolaid, on 21 January 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

One is a murderer, the other does charity.

Guess who the media portrays in a better perspective

When wrong ir right and right is wrong, as this country has streamlined to in the last few decades, your opine is exactly what happens.

[section122]

 drinkTHEkoolaid, on 21 January 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

One is a murderer, the other does charity.

Guess who the media portrays in a better perspective

 MOVALLEYRANDY, on 21 January 2013 - 02:39 PM, said:

When wrong ir right and right is wrong, as this country has streamlined to in the last few decades, your opine is exactly what happens.

When your wrong and others follow suit in your wrongness your post is exactly what happens....

[J-Gun Boone]

 eball, on 21 January 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:

Sounds pretty freaking good to me.

Outstanding

[section122]

I don't think either of them need to apologize for their beliefs.  There faith is strong and they want to share it.  You can agree or disagree with them.  I'm Christian and happy that they have such strong beliefs and don't hide from them regardless of persecution for their beliefs.

[RuntheDamnBall]

Saying that a benevolent God cares about football is about the clearest argument there is for the non-existence of said God.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Man is the Board getting this slow already

[fansince88]

 Chimp, on 21 January 2013 - 01:55 PM, said:

Intimate and personal, good for you.  Say for a moment everyone kept their faith as you do, intimate and personal.  What happens then?

As a man who believes that Jesus is the Son of God, came in the flesh, and died and rose again for all humanity I agree. I am open to those I come in contact with on a daily basis by my lifestyle that I love all that He has done for me. I am happy he is happy and thanking God. I dont know the mans heart and cant judge him personally.  The problem I have is with the grandstanders in public and behind the pulpit that live contrary to what they preach . live it or shut up is my feeling.

[Tu-Toned]

 fansince88, on 21 January 2013 - 03:15 PM, said:

As a man who believes that Jesus is the Son of God, came in the flesh, and died and rose again for all humanity I agree. I am open to those I come in contact with on a daily basis by my lifestyle that I love all that He has done for me. I am happy he is happy and thanking God. I dont know the mans heart and cant judge him personally.  The problem I have is with the grandstanders in public and behind the pulpit that live contrary to what they preach . live it or shut up is my feeling.

Amen brother, what's the old saying, I belive from the Bible, don't let the left hand know what good deads the right one has done.
Another words, when you do or think good deeds, do them and STFU!

[Buffalo Barbarian]

 RuntheDamnBall, on 21 January 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

Saying that a benevolent God cares about football is about the clearest argument there is for the non-existence of said God.

yeah because people are dumb means God doesn't exist

[RuntheDamnBall]

 Buffalo Barbarian, on 21 January 2013 - 03:25 PM, said:

yeah because people are dumb means God doesn't exist

The God they believe in doesn't exist.

[MOVALLEYRANDY]

 RuntheDamnBall, on 21 January 2013 - 03:26 PM, said:

The God they believe in doesn't exist.

You may want to consider a debate class or two.