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[BringBackFergy]

Here's a little game I like to call....."WTF was the front office thinking?". Since it is slow in the Bills news category and I am burned out with analysis of "what ifs" in the upcoming Draft 2013, I took a gander at the Bills' drafting history (as I am apt to do each year before our Draft) and doubt anyone can find a more depressing draft than 2000. Take a look and if you think you can beat it, please feel free.


2000 1 26(26) Bills Erik Flowers DE Arizona State 2000 2 27(58) Bills Travares Tillman DB Georgia Tech 2000 3 27(89) Bills Corey Moore LB Virginia Tech 2000 4 27(121) Bills Avion Black WR Tennessee State 2000 5 27(156) Bills Sammy Morris RB Texas Tech 2000 6 28(194) Bills Leif Larsen DT UTEP 2000 7 27(233) Bills Drew Haddad WR Buffalo 2000 7 45(251) Bills DaShon Polk LB Arizona

[KD in CT]

And as usual they didn't bother drafting a QB;  not like there was anyone good in the later rounds anyway that year.

[nucci]

http://www.nfl.com/d...=0610&type=team

'60, '65, and '67 were bad also.

[Pete]

BringBackFergy, on 29 January 2013 - 11:02 AM, said:

Here's a little game I like to call....."WTF was the front office thinking?". Since it is slow in the Bills news category and I am burned out with analysis of "what ifs" in the upcoming Draft 2013, I took a gander at the Bills' drafting history (as I am apt to do each year before our Draft) and doubt anyone can find a more depressing draft than 2000. Take a look and if you think you can beat it, please feel free.


2000 1 26(26) Bills Erik Flowers DE Arizona State 2000 2 27(58) Bills Travares Tillman DB Georgia Tech 2000 3 27(89) Bills Corey Moore LB Virginia Tech 2000 4 27(121) Bills Avion Black WR Tennessee State 2000 5 27(156) Bills Sammy Morris RB Texas Tech 2000 6 28(194) Bills Leif Larsen DT UTEP 2000 7 27(233) Bills Drew Haddad WR Buffalo 2000 7 45(251) Bills DaShon Polk LB Arizona

Godawful for sure.  But 2000 is the weakest NFL draft I can recall.  Look at this load of **** in the first round(and the subsequent rounds were not much better)Round 1
1 (1) Cleveland Browns - Courtney Brown, DE Penn State
2 (2) Washington Redskins - LaVar Arrington, LB Penn State
3 (3) Washington Redskins - Chris Samuels, T Alabama
4 (4) Cincinnati Bengals - Peter Warrick, WR Florida State
5 (5) Baltimore Ravens - Jamal Lewis, RB Tennessee
6 (6) Philadelphia Eagles - Corey Simon, DT Florida State
7 (7) Arizona Cardinals - Thomas Jones, RB Virginia
8 (8) Pittsburgh Steelers - Plaxico Burress, WR Michigan State
9 (9) Chicago Bears - Brian Urlacher, LB New Mexico
10 (10) Baltimore Ravens - Travis Taylor, WR Florida
11 (11) New York Giants - Ron Dayne, RB Wisconsin
12 (12) New York Jets - Shaun Ellis, DE Tennessee
13 (13) New York Jets - John Abraham, LB South Carolina
14 (14) Green Bay Packers - Bubba Franks, TE Miami (FL)
15 (15) Denver Broncos - Deltha O'Neal, DB California
16 (16) San Francisco 49ers - Julian Peterson, LB Michigan State
17 (17) Oakland Raiders - Sebastian Janikowski, K Florida State
18 (18) New York Jets - Chad Pennington, QB Marshall
19 (19) Seattle Seahawks - Shaun Alexander, RB Alabama
20 (20) Detroit Lions - Stockar McDougle, T Oklahoma
21 (21) Kansas City Chiefs - Sylvester Morris, WR Jackson State
22 (22) Seattle Seahawks - Chris McIntosh, T Wisconsin
23 (23) Carolina Panthers - Rashard Anderson, DB Jackson State
24 (24) San Francisco 49ers - Ahmed Plummer, DB Ohio State
25 (25) Minnesota Vikings - Chris Hovan, DT Boston College
26 (26) Buffalo Bills - Erik Flowers, DE Arizona State
27 (27) New York Jets - Anthony Becht, TE West Virginia
28 (28) Indianapolis Colts - Rob Morris, LB Brigham Young
29 (29) Jacksonille Jaguars - R. Jay Soward, WR USC
30 (30) Tennessee Titans - Keith Bulluck, LB Syracuse
31 (31) St. Louis Rams - Trung Canidate, RB Arizona

[sodbuster]

Sammy morris.

[BringBackFergy]

KD in CT, on 29 January 2013 - 11:08 AM, said:

And as usual they didn't bother drafting a QB;  not like there was anyone good in the later rounds anyway that year.

I just browsed 1979 and saw the name "Dan Manucci - QB".....I almost lost my breakfast when I read that name.

[T master]

Sammy Morris did good in Miami for a lot of years, so one out of 8 not bad & i bet Miami was
thankful !

[metzelaars_lives]

Pete, on 29 January 2013 - 11:22 AM, said:

Godawful for sure.  But 2000 is the weakest NFL draft I can recall.  Look at this load of **** in the first round(and the subsequent rounds were not much better)Round 1
1 (1) Cleveland Browns - Courtney Brown, DE Penn State
2 (2) Washington Redskins - LaVar Arrington, LB Penn State
3 (3) Washington Redskins - Chris Samuels, T Alabama
4 (4) Cincinnati Bengals - Peter Warrick, WR Florida State
5 (5) Baltimore Ravens - Jamal Lewis, RB Tennessee
6 (6) Philadelphia Eagles - Corey Simon, DT Florida State
7 (7) Arizona Cardinals - Thomas Jones, RB Virginia
8 (8) Pittsburgh Steelers - Plaxico Burress, WR Michigan State
9 (9) Chicago Bears - Brian Urlacher, LB New Mexico
10 (10) Baltimore Ravens - Travis Taylor, WR Florida
11 (11) New York Giants - Ron Dayne, RB Wisconsin
12 (12) New York Jets - Shaun Ellis, DE Tennessee
13 (13) New York Jets - John Abraham, LB South Carolina
14 (14) Green Bay Packers - Bubba Franks, TE Miami (FL)
15 (15) Denver Broncos - Deltha O'Neal, DB California
16 (16) San Francisco 49ers - Julian Peterson, LB Michigan State
17 (17) Oakland Raiders - Sebastian Janikowski, K Florida State
18 (18) New York Jets - Chad Pennington, QB Marshall
19 (19) Seattle Seahawks - Shaun Alexander, RB Alabama
20 (20) Detroit Lions - Stockar McDougle, T Oklahoma
21 (21) Kansas City Chiefs - Sylvester Morris, WR Jackson State
22 (22) Seattle Seahawks - Chris McIntosh, T Wisconsin
23 (23) Carolina Panthers - Rashard Anderson, DB Jackson State
24 (24) San Francisco 49ers - Ahmed Plummer, DB Ohio State
25 (25) Minnesota Vikings - Chris Hovan, DT Boston College
26 (26) Buffalo Bills - Erik Flowers, DE Arizona State
27 (27) New York Jets - Anthony Becht, TE West Virginia
28 (28) Indianapolis Colts - Rob Morris, LB Brigham Young
29 (29) Jacksonille Jaguars - R. Jay Soward, WR USC
30 (30) Tennessee Titans - Keith Bulluck, LB Syracuse
31 (31) St. Louis Rams - Trung Canidate, RB Arizona

Wow.  That is insane.  Out of an entire first round, who turned out to be an impact player in the pros?  Lewis, Burress, Urlacher, Abraham, Peterson, Janikoswski, Pennington, Alexander, Hovan and Bulluck.  I guess Shaun Ellis was OK.  But even of those guys, none of them were insanely good except Urlacher.  Perhaps the Raiders weren't so crazy taking Janikowski after all.

I think there is a collective sinking feeling around here that this year's draft could turn out a lot like this one.

Edited by metzelaars_lives, 29 January 2013 - 11:36 AM.

[dogman]

BringBackFergy, on 29 January 2013 - 11:02 AM, said:

Here's a little game I like to call....."WTF was the front office thinking?". Since it is slow in the Bills news category and I am burned out with analysis of "what ifs" in the upcoming Draft 2013, I took a gander at the Bills' drafting history (as I am apt to do each year before our Draft) and doubt anyone can find a more depressing draft than 2000. Take a look and if you think you can beat it, please feel free.


2000 1 26(26) Bills Erik Flowers DE Arizona State 2000 2 27(58) Bills Travares Tillman DB Georgia Tech 2000 3 27(89) Bills Corey Moore LB Virginia Tech 2000 4 27(121) Bills Avion Black WR Tennessee State 2000 5 27(156) Bills Sammy Morris RB Texas Tech 2000 6 28(194) Bills Leif Larsen DT UTEP 2000 7 27(233) Bills Drew Haddad WR Buffalo 2000 7 45(251) Bills DaShon Polk LB Arizona

Very funny.  When you asked the question-that was exactly the draft I thought of...

[Ryan L Billz]

jamal lewis was a freakin beast..........he got his superbowl ring by going beastmode all season for the Ravens.

[auburnbillsbacker]

T master, on 29 January 2013 - 11:28 AM, said:

Sammy Morris did good in Miami for a lot of years, so one out of 8 not bad & i bet Miami was
thankful !

He also was good with the patriots.  Several 100 yard games and great special teams play.

[tombstone56]

BAD YEAR OVERALL that list of draftees was like a " who is that "" not the the bills , but the whole list turned out to be also rans with very few exceptions, lousy draft

Edited by tombstone56, 29 January 2013 - 11:49 AM.

[KD in CT]

metzelaars_lives, on 29 January 2013 - 11:33 AM, said:

Wow.  That is insane.  Out of an entire first round, who turned out to be an impact player in the pros?  Lewis, Burress, Urlacher, Abraham, Peterson, Janikoswski, Pennington, Alexander, Hovan and Bulluck.  I guess Shaun Ellis was OK.  But even of those guys, none of them were insanely good except Urlacher.  Perhaps the Raiders weren't so crazy taking Janikowski after all.

I think there is a collective sinking feeling around here that this year's draft could turn out a lot like this one.

Yeah, the Raider took a lot of grief over that pick.  Funny that Janikowski ended up as one of the better picks.

[maddenboy]

So here's the thing.

Been saying this for years.

Draft who you like.  Draft who you think is gonna be good.  Dont give a Fu** about "draft position" or "value."  There's only gonna be a few really good players in every draft.  So if you think you found one, take him at 8.

[Section242]

The alleged tanked Butler draft.  Tillman was in the league for a little bit but other than him and Morris I can't recall other guys being in the league very long.  Larsen was a workout warrior if I recall correctly.

[BuffaloBillsMagic1]

maddenboy, on 29 January 2013 - 11:48 AM, said:

So here's the thing.

Been saying this for years.

Draft who you like.  Draft who you think is gonna be good.  Dont give a Fu** about "draft position" or "value."  There's only gonna be a few really good players in every draft.  So if you think you found one, take him at 8.

Mrs. Nasabb, please hold back...

[San Jose Bills Fan]

BTW, that was a John Butler draft.

[JPS]

Bad draft years happen to everybody. But stringing them together as the Bills have is almost an exercise in mathematical improbability.  What's worse than that is: when you finally hit on a good, qualified NFL player, you let him walk or trade him away for a sack of potatoes.

[BringBackFergy]

JPS, on 29 January 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

Bad draft years happen to everybody. But stringing them together as the Bills have is almost an exercise in mathematical improbability.  What's worse than that is: when you finally hit on a good, qualified NFL player, you let him walk or trade him away for a sack of potatoes.

A sack of potatoes has value

[Sisyphean Bills]

Like Pete posted, 2000 was a really poor year overall.  Of course, the Bills didn't help themselves, but they also springboarded that draft to go on and re-draft Erik Flowers type players for years.