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[Jerry Jabber]

Seeing these stats really bums me out.

http://www.buffaloru...-aid-in-buffalo

" So, it appears that the “youth movement” is the new kool-aid that is being mixed up at One Bills Drive this year.  One thing is for sure, a big change in direction was needed, especially when you look at these horrific stats:

· Last winning season: 2004 (9-7)

· Last playoff game: January 8, 2000 (Currently ranks 1^st as the longest drought)

· Last playoff win: December 30, 1995 (Currently ranks as 4^th longest drought)

· Last Division title: 1995 (Currently ranks as 3^rd longest drought)

· Last AFC Championship game: January 23, 1994 (Currently ranks as 7^th longest drought)

· Last Superbowl appearance: January 30, 1994 (Currently ranks as 9^th longest drought)

· 21 winning seasons out of 52"

[shibuya]

Kool-Aid reference are now boring and abused

[reddogblitz]

Young and high energy and new direction doesn't excite me.  Winning on the field excite me.  We'll see.

Edited by reddogblitz, 01 February 2013 - 03:55 PM.

[QCity]

shibuya, on 01 February 2013 - 03:52 PM, said:

Kool-Aid reference are now boring and abused

Kool-Aid references are the new Kool-Aid.

[John from Hemet]

How about

"insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

I dont know how this is going to turn out.....but it IS being done differently

[SoCal-Surf]

Well, at least it only took Ralph a decade to figure out he needed to stop screwing around with the team..

[jeremy2020]

This hasn't been covered with 34273249829891 other threads. Glad we can finally discuss it.

[PromoTheRobot]

The writer offers nothing as evidence that this is "business as usual" other than to reference the past.  And calling it "kool-aid" is just a lame attempt to cast doubt. Of course nothing can change until they start playing football next fall but that doesn't stop the haters from hatin'.

PTR

[Lurker]

John from Hemet, on 01 February 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

"insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

Sort of like the OP posting the same thread over and over and over...

[Jerry Jabber]

PromoTheRobot, on 01 February 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

The writer offers nothing as evidence that this is "business as usual" other than to reference the past.  And calling it "kool-aid" is just a lame attempt to cast doubt. Of course nothing can change until they start playing football next fall but that doesn't stop the haters from hatin'.

PTR

I wouldn't say it's "haters hatin' " I think as the playoff drought keeps getting longer, fans are becoming more cynical. All of us want the Bills to be winners again, but after 13 years of misery, it's taking its toll.

[Yonder_d7]

QCity, on 01 February 2013 - 04:12 PM, said:

Kool-Aid references are the new Kool-Aid.

And that's where we get the term.



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Edited by Yonder_d7, 01 February 2013 - 06:27 PM.

[BADOLBEELZ]

PromoTheRobot, on 01 February 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

And calling it "kool-aid" is just a lame attempt to cast doubt.

The BILLS make you wanna' doubt!

Not the fans.  

The Bills.

The brand is tarnished.

"Hate"in the sarcastic context you are trying to use it is unjustified or unnecessary criticism.

When the man in charge of the franchise feels the need to announce that the team has been so bad that the BRAND itself is tarnished....that is ugly.

At this point, the only hatin' going on here is fan-on-fan hate by people such as yourself who take their frustration with the team out on other Bills fans in the disguise of homer-ism.

One can't even argue the performance of the organization over the last decade plus.  Even the Bills don't try.

[Best Player Available]

The youth movement? weren't the Bills like the 2nd youngest team in the league a couple of years ago.

Now if their talking the coaching staff I agree. Hiring a Yout as the OC is interesting. But will it work?

[QCity]

Yonder_d7, on 01 February 2013 - 06:23 PM, said:

And that's where we get the term.

I know the origin of the euphemism. I was inferring that there is now a cult following that claims there is always another cult following - i.e. a cult of people that thinks everyone else is a cult. Maybe it's too meta.

[Dr. Trooth]

Anyone believing it is koolaid should not drink any before October.  At least by that time you'll have a decent idea of what you're drinking.

As far as the "youth" movement... on the surface, at least, it's a dramatic change.  Everything about the Bills, from the owner on down has been old school and seemingly way behind the rest of the league. Old coaches, old ideas, no forward thinking, just recycling old ****. Can't inspire young athletes or even get their attention.

We'll just have to wait and see where things go. Don't drink the koolaid. Not yet.

[PromoTheRobot]

BADOLBEELZ, on 01 February 2013 - 07:43 PM, said:

The BILLS make you wanna' doubt!

Not the fans.  

The Bills.

The brand is tarnished.

"Hate"in the sarcastic context you are trying to use it is unjustified or unnecessary criticism.

When the man in charge of the franchise feels the need to announce that the team has been so bad that the BRAND itself is tarnished....that is ugly.

At this point, the only hatin' going on here is fan-on-fan hate by people such as yourself who take their frustration with the team out on other Bills fans in the disguise of homer-ism.

One can't even argue the performance of the organization over the last decade plus.  Even the Bills don't try.

But you have no problem with some hack lobbing crap bombs at the Bills one month into a totally new regime? Can't we wait until the draft or first OTA to declare it a disaster?

Using the past 13 years as proof we will keep failing is ridiculous, and takes away any reason to be a Bills fan. Then again maybe that's the idea.

PTR

[Dennis in AZ]

Best Player Available, on 01 February 2013 - 07:53 PM, said:

The youth movement? weren't the Bills like the 2nd youngest team in the league a couple of years ago.

Now if their talking the coaching staff I agree. Hiring a Yout as the OC is interesting. But will it work?

I love the fact that our 33-year old OC has been in locker rooms and coaching sessions with his offensive specialist dad since he was 8 years old.  It gives me hope for the Bills new offense.

[CardinalScotts]

You have to have a direction, every team does - from a youth movement to tape it together or somewhere in between. For the Bills it's a different feel, much more excitable coach, young enthusiastic staff. In every sport the players take on the personality of the coach, we've had very little emotion in the last 6, 7 years maybe more.

[BillsVet]

Dennis in AZ, on 01 February 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

I love the fact that our 33-year old OC has been in locker rooms and coaching sessions with his offensive specialist dad since he was 8 years old.  It gives me hope for the Bills new offense.

I would have a little more hope if that OC had an honest to goodness starting QB who can make all the throws and has some receivers.  Look, good coaching is important, but talent wins on game day.  An offense in today's NFL demands a QB who has no less than 3 options in the passing game.  Hopefully the new OC gets that at some point.

[BADOLBEELZ]

PromoTheRobot, on 01 February 2013 - 08:38 PM, said:

But you have no problem with some hack lobbing crap bombs at the Bills one month into a totally new regime? Can't we wait until the draft or first OTA to declare it a disaster?

Using the past 13 years as proof we will keep failing is ridiculous, and takes away any reason to be a Bills fan. Then again maybe that's the idea.

PTR

Again, the boss says the brand is tarnished.  If you are a fan of the team, that is your sign.

They know they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt that they will put a winner on the field.  They know they have to prove themselves.  They just want the support that matters.  Which they GET at the box office.

If fans could make players better, make players work harder and play smarter they would.  They can't.