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[BuffBill]

Based on 5 different areas of play (Accuracy, Arm Strength, Decision Making, Mechanics and Mobility), Fitz came out at #43 out of 65 quarterbacks.  Could be worse, the Cardinals had #'s 64 & 65 and the Jets had #63 (Sanchez) and #62 (Tebow).  Clear to see why most people with common sense feel the QB position is an urgency for the Bills.  Would post the link but one of the Administrators don't like Bleacher Report, although the article is written by one of the NFL Draft's lead writers and is pretty thorough.

[LABillsBacker24]

link?

[BuffBill]

LABillsBacker24, on 11 February 2013 - 12:16 PM, said:

link?

Read my post, I tried to post the link, but the Marshall Dillon administrators have links to Bleacher Report blocked.  Go to bleacherreport.com.

[bobobonators]

this was posted in other thread:

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:09 PM


KOKBILLS, on 08 February 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:


For those who hate actual in-depth statistical analysis on QB's, and how poorly Fitz stacks up...Please don't hit the following link...You WILL be disappointed...Again...http://www.footballs...=509345&start=0


Joe Flacco
17 Passes Dropped
57 Overthrown (11.1%), 1 INT
5 Underthrown (1%)
34 Thrown Wide (6.6%)
96 "Bad Throws" (18.7%), 1 INT
9 Passes Batted At Line (1.8%)
Adjusted QBR: 101.3


Ryan Fitzpatrick
27 Passes Dropped
41 Overthrown (8.2%) 1 INT
17 Underthrown (3.4%), 2 INTs
28 Thrown Wide (5.6%)
86 "Bad Throws" (17.3%), 3 INTs
13 Passes Batted At Line (2.6%)
Adjusted QBR: 99.8

Eli Manning
28 Passes Dropped
35 Overthrown (6.7%) 1 INT
14 Underthrown (2.7%), 1 INT
26 Thrown Wide (5.0%), 1 INT
75 "Bad Throws" (14.4%), 3 INTs
10 Passes Batted At Line (1.9%)
Adjusted QBR: 101.1

Andrew Luck
33 Passes Dropped
53 Overthrown (8.8%), 2 INTs
17 Underthrown (2.8%), 3 INTs
38 Thrown Wide (6.3%), 3 INT
108 "Bad Throws" (17.9%), 8 INTs
13 Passes Batted At Line (2.2%)
Adjusted QBR: 91.6



Looks pretty good to me, using these stats.

[taC giB ehT]

Yeah, if that's copy/pasted from KOBills, then I'm having the damnedest time trying to interpret his double negative.

bobobonators, on 11 February 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

this was posted in other thread:

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:09 PM


KOKBILLS, on 08 February 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:


For those who hate actual in-depth statistical analysis on QB's, and how poorly Fitz stacks up...Please don't hit the following link...You WILL be disappointed...Again...http://www.footballs...=509345&start=0


Joe Flacco
17 Passes Dropped
57 Overthrown (11.1%), 1 INT
5 Underthrown (1%)
34 Thrown Wide (6.6%)
96 "Bad Throws" (18.7%), 1 INT
9 Passes Batted At Line (1.8%)
Adjusted QBR: 101.3


Ryan Fitzpatrick
27 Passes Dropped
41 Overthrown (8.2%) 1 INT
17 Underthrown (3.4%), 2 INTs
28 Thrown Wide (5.6%)
86 "Bad Throws" (17.3%), 3 INTs
13 Passes Batted At Line (2.6%)
Adjusted QBR: 99.8

Eli Manning
28 Passes Dropped
35 Overthrown (6.7%) 1 INT
14 Underthrown (2.7%), 1 INT
26 Thrown Wide (5.0%), 1 INT
75 "Bad Throws" (14.4%), 3 INTs
10 Passes Batted At Line (1.9%)
Adjusted QBR: 101.1

Andrew Luck
33 Passes Dropped
53 Overthrown (8.8%), 2 INTs
17 Underthrown (2.8%), 3 INTs
38 Thrown Wide (6.3%), 3 INT
108 "Bad Throws" (17.9%), 8 INTs
13 Passes Batted At Line (2.2%)
Adjusted QBR: 91.6



Looks pretty good to me, using these stats.

Edited by taC giB ehT, 11 February 2013 - 12:28 PM.

[Zulu Cthulhu]

What do you mean one of the NFL draft's lead writers? He or she works for NFL.com then? If so then the article should be posted on some other legitimate site.

Of course you could mean one of bleacher report's lead draft writers, in which case it's not legit at all.

[vincec]

BuffBill, on 11 February 2013 - 12:18 PM, said:

Read my post, I tried to post the link, but the Marshall Dillon administrators have links to Bleacher Report blocked.  Go to bleacherreport.com.

Is this true?  Now you can't even post a link?  That's pretty bad.

bobobonators, on 11 February 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

this was posted in other thread:

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:09 PM


KOKBILLS, on 08 February 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:


For those who hate actual in-depth statistical analysis on QB's, and how poorly Fitz stacks up...Please don't hit the following link...You WILL be disappointed...Again...http://www.footballs...=509345&start=0


Joe Flacco
17 Passes Dropped
57 Overthrown (11.1%), 1 INT
5 Underthrown (1%)
34 Thrown Wide (6.6%)
96 "Bad Throws" (18.7%), 1 INT
9 Passes Batted At Line (1.8%)
Adjusted QBR: 101.3


Ryan Fitzpatrick
27 Passes Dropped
41 Overthrown (8.2%) 1 INT
17 Underthrown (3.4%), 2 INTs
28 Thrown Wide (5.6%)
86 "Bad Throws" (17.3%), 3 INTs
13 Passes Batted At Line (2.6%)
Adjusted QBR: 99.8

Eli Manning
28 Passes Dropped
35 Overthrown (6.7%) 1 INT
14 Underthrown (2.7%), 1 INT
26 Thrown Wide (5.0%), 1 INT
75 "Bad Throws" (14.4%), 3 INTs
10 Passes Batted At Line (1.9%)
Adjusted QBR: 101.1

Andrew Luck
33 Passes Dropped
53 Overthrown (8.8%), 2 INTs
17 Underthrown (2.8%), 3 INTs
38 Thrown Wide (6.3%), 3 INT
108 "Bad Throws" (17.9%), 8 INTs
13 Passes Batted At Line (2.2%)
Adjusted QBR: 91.6



Looks pretty good to me, using these stats.

Maybe if you send these to the Giant, Colt or Raven GMs they'd agree to trade their QBs for Fitz.  Maybe.

[xsoldier54]

bobobonators, on 11 February 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

this was posted in other thread:

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:09 PM


KOKBILLS, on 08 February 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:


For those who hate actual in-depth statistical analysis on QB's, and how poorly Fitz stacks up...Please don't hit the following link...You WILL be disappointed...Again...http://www.footballs...=509345&start=0


Joe Flacco
17 Passes Dropped
57 Overthrown (11.1%), 1 INT
5 Underthrown (1%)
34 Thrown Wide (6.6%)
96 "Bad Throws" (18.7%), 1 INT
9 Passes Batted At Line (1.8%)
Adjusted QBR: 101.3


Ryan Fitzpatrick
27 Passes Dropped
41 Overthrown (8.2%) 1 INT
17 Underthrown (3.4%), 2 INTs
28 Thrown Wide (5.6%)
86 "Bad Throws" (17.3%), 3 INTs
13 Passes Batted At Line (2.6%)
Adjusted QBR: 99.8

Eli Manning
28 Passes Dropped
35 Overthrown (6.7%) 1 INT
14 Underthrown (2.7%), 1 INT
26 Thrown Wide (5.0%), 1 INT
75 "Bad Throws" (14.4%), 3 INTs
10 Passes Batted At Line (1.9%)
Adjusted QBR: 101.1

Andrew Luck
33 Passes Dropped
53 Overthrown (8.8%), 2 INTs
17 Underthrown (2.8%), 3 INTs
38 Thrown Wide (6.3%), 3 INT
108 "Bad Throws" (17.9%), 8 INTs
13 Passes Batted At Line (2.2%)
Adjusted QBR: 91.6



Looks pretty good to me, using these stats.

You can't just look at stats.  You have to actually watch the games.  Fitzpatrick was absolutely putrid.  Statistics have to be put into context according to the situation.  I'd say that 43rd out of 65 sounds about right.  There should be no debate.  This guy needs to go.

[Ryan L Billz]

2/11/2013         Fitz still isn't any good.     Nothing has changed

[Marauder24]

Anyone have a breakdown of Fitz's 4th quarter stats in close games?  Just going to take a shot here, but I'm guessing they aren't all that impressive.  However, the guy can apparently eat a lot of steak in one sitting and he did go to Harvard, allegedly.

[26CornerBlitz]

BuffBill, on 11 February 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:

Based on 5 different areas of play (Accuracy, Arm Strength, Decision Making, Mechanics and Mobility), Fitz came out at #43 out of 65 quarterbacks.  Could be worse, the Cardinals had #'s 64 & 65 and the Jets had #63 (Sanchez) and #62 (Tebow).  Clear to see why most people with common sense feel the QB position is an urgency for the Bills.  Would post the link but one of the Administrators don't like Bleacher Report, although the article is written by one of the NFL Draft's lead writers and is pretty thorough.

The article said Fitz was accurate.   The complete thought is written like this:

Ryan Fitzpatrick (6'2", 225 pounds, eight seasons) is an accurate, smart quarterback who has a good feel for space but can lack awareness on timing and ball placement.  How can you be both accurate and lack awareness on ball placement?  

Also said: Fitzpatrick errs on the side of checking down to backs instead of taking chances down the field with wide receivers in 50/50 situations.  I disagree with that. too.

The assessment on Fitz was ....eh.

Edited by 26CornerBlitz, 11 February 2013 - 12:54 PM.

[bananathumb]

Is he ahead of Trent Edwards? That's the only thing I want to know?

[Alphadawg7]

He's ranked behind several back ups and almost all the starters...sounds about right to me regardless of the source.

[Zulu Cthulhu]

Anyone who found and read this know the author's name?

[BuffBill]

Zulu Cthulhu, on 11 February 2013 - 01:32 PM, said:

Anyone who found and read this know the author's name?

His name is Matt Miller:

Bleacher Report's NFL Draft Lead Writer, Miller is also the founder of the NFL draft site New Era Scouting. Matt's work has been featured in Madden 13, on ESPN radio, SiriusXM, NFL.com, SI.com and USA Today as well as utilized by NFL, CFL and AFL teams. Matt was the secondary and special teams coordinator for the three-time league champion Joplin Crusaders of the Central Football League. Matt is also a member of the Pro Football Writers of America.

Good enough for those organizations but not good enough to be able to link to this site?

Edited by BuffBill, 11 February 2013 - 01:38 PM.

[bobobonators]

Ryan Mallet, Chase Daniel and Drew Stanton are ranked ahead of Ryan Fitzpatrick?  How can someone objectively rank "Accuracy, Arm Strength, Decision Making, Mechanics and Mobility" if they don't even start?

[BuffBill]

bobobonators, on 11 February 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

Ryan Mallet, Chase Daniel and Drew Stanton are ranked ahead of Ryan Fitzpatrick?  How can someone objectively rank "Accuracy, Arm Strength, Decision Making, Mechanics and Mobility" if they don't even start?

Have you seen Fitz play?

[taC giB ehT]

bobobonators, on 11 February 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

Ryan Mallet, Chase Daniel and Drew Stanton are ranked ahead of Ryan Fitzpatrick?  How can someone objectively rank "Accuracy, Arm Strength, Decision Making, Mechanics and Mobility" if they don't even start?

Ryan Mallet--who finished 2012 1-4 for 17 yds and a pick (numbers that'd make JaMarcus Russel blush)--shouldn't be ahead of anybody.

[BuffBill]

taC giB ehT, on 11 February 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

Ryan Mallet--who finished 2012 1-4 for 17 yds and a pick (numbers that'd make JaMarcus Russel blush)--shouldn't be ahead of anybody.

Thigpen is ahead of Sanchez?  Not by much, but same situation.

[SoCal-Surf]

BuffBill, on 11 February 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:

Based on 5 different areas of play (Accuracy, Arm Strength, Decision Making, Mechanics and Mobility), Fitz came out at #43 out of 65 quarterbacks.  Could be worse, the Cardinals had #'s 64 & 65 and the Jets had #63 (Sanchez) and #62 (Tebow).  Clear to see why most people with common sense feel the QB position is an urgency for the Bills. Would post the link but one of the Administrators don't like Bleacher Report, although the article is written by one of the NFL Draft's lead writers and is pretty thorough.

Interesting:  The only people who did NOT see this seem to have been the coach and the G.M..  And the usual posters (Fitz apologists).

They will show up, shortly.


The G.M. is still here?