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#1 buffalobillsgrl

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 04:13 PM

Finally!  Coach Marrone came out today and said there would be open competition at all positions.  While i know this is usually the case for new coaching staffs, I also think this should be the case every year!  Every year these players should be told straight forward you are all competing for a job, no one is safe, lets get to it!  I can not wait to see who steps up and who REALLY wants to be here.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 04:56 PM

it didn't even need to be said. I assumed Marrone would do exactly that

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 05:01 PM

View Postshibuya, on 15 February 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

it didn't even need to be said. I assumed Marrone would do exactly that
It is good that he did tho......maybe there are some guys that need to hear exactly those words directly from the coach.  Just because most of us assumed it would be the case dosen't mean all of the players would take it seriously.  So I am glad he came out and said it

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 05:54 PM

View Postshibuya, on 15 February 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

it didn't even need to be said. I assumed Marrone would do exactly that
You would think so, but Fitz's job was secure for the past two seasons. If there was a camp competition, it wasn't obvious. There is an off chance that competition might bring out the fighter in Fitz that supposedly he possibly has... perchance...mayhaps.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 06:27 PM

View Postbuffalobillsgrl, on 15 February 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Finally!  Coach Marrone came out today and said there would be open competition at all positions.

Totally overrated statement.  Do you think it's possible Stevie Johnson could be second string?  The only thing this means is they don't think the starter is good enough to have the starting job, if that position is QB, you're in trouble.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 06:34 PM

nice to see uncle sy has made it,  JACK    

This competition will interest me when the 3rd party to this open competition is named Smith, Barkley, Wilson or Manuel.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 06:49 PM

I just hope it will be a genuine "open competition" as opposed to the ersatz 'open competition' that Chan Gailey ran where, despite Gailey's lip service to the contrary, the job was clearly Trent Edwards' to lose.

(And, once the regular season began, Trent did just that - lose the job after two games, thus wasting QB expert Chan Gailey's 6 months of OTA/mini-camp/training camp/and preseason open competition and evaluation)

I wonder if Brad Smith will also be part of this competition, and will we throw our 1st-round pick Matt Barkley into the mix? Any chance of Tebow coming here as a TE/#3 QB???

GO BILLSSS!!!!

19 and 0 baby!!!!! :beer:
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Edited by The Senator, 15 February 2013 - 06:51 PM.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 06:56 PM

View Postbuffalobillsgrl, on 15 February 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Finally!  Coach Marrone came out today and said there would be open competition at all positions.  While i know this is usually the case for new coaching staffs, I also think this should be the case every year!  Every year these players should be told straight forward you are all competing for a job, no one is safe, lets get to it!  I can not wait to see who steps up and who REALLY wants to be here.

Unless coach is bringing in a ton of FA's I don't see how this isn't just typical off season coachspeak.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 07:34 PM

View PostMr. WEO, on 15 February 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

Unless coach is bringing in a ton of FA's I don't see how this isn't just typical off season coachspeak.
The point of the post wasn't as much what he said as it was that he said it publicly.  In three years did Chan say anything to the effect?  It just feels like a whole different approach.  Maybe Marrone won't be so player friendly,.  To see actual competition and guys being forced to fight for their jobs is refreshing to me...assuming that it really happens.  Or maybe my eternal optimism is just kicking in again.  Who knows?  But it is fun to dream that Marrone is going to come in and completely light a fire under our guys

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:06 PM

what coach doesn't preach competition. ... of course, Fitzpatrick vs. Jackson is one thing. Mario Williams vs. ? is another, right?

jw

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:34 PM

View Postbuffalobillsgrl, on 15 February 2013 - 07:34 PM, said:

The point of the post wasn't as much what he said as it was that he said it publicly.  In three years did Chan say anything to the effect?  It just feels like a whole different approach.  Maybe Marrone won't be so player friendly,.  To see actual competition and guys being forced to fight for their jobs is refreshing to me...assuming that it really happens.  Or maybe my eternal optimism is just kicking in again.  Who knows?  But it is fun to dream that Marrone is going to come in and completely light a fire under our guys
I think this is the case.
What he did in syracuse would be nice.
Clean the place up.
Don't any one fear that we won't be very serious about getting a QB within the first two rounds.

Also and important , i can see him kicking anyone to the curb anytime. Look how they handled T Mcgee and Barnett and Wilson.
Boom.
Professional, respectful  but sudden and complete.

I can imagine Fitz gone shortly if it's about freeing up cap cash.

View Postjohn wawrow, on 15 February 2013 - 08:06 PM, said:

what coach doesn't preach competition. ... of course, Fitzpatrick vs. Jackson is one thing. Mario Williams vs. ? is another, right?

jw
competiton is a word that does not always mean competition when spoken by The Organization.
It could mean , " yep both you guys are not what we want at this point. maybe you each could start trying ALOT harder to meet our vision "

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:37 PM

If Ryan Fitzpatrick is part of your QB competition...You're not good enough...

/the end

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:38 PM

View Postbuffalobillsgrl, on 15 February 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Finally!  Coach Marrone came out today and said there would be open competition at all positions.  While i know this is usually the case for new coaching staffs, I also think this should be the case every year!  Every year these players should be told straight forward you are all competing for a job, no one is safe, lets get to it!  I can not wait to see who steps up and who REALLY wants to be here.

Wait - are you saying the depth chart on the website might be different come September?!? I just finished learning Chans and was hoping they'd stick to that.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:44 PM

I always wonder what prompts people to say the things they say.....in this case....why did Marrone say....

“I spoke with Ryan (Fitzpatrick) and Tarvaris (Jackson) and told them we will have an open competition at the quarterback position – similar to what we will do at all positions on our team heading into our offseason work,” said Marrone. “I believe that our players will embrace this challenge. We are looking forward to working with our players as we prepare for the 2013 season.”

It doesn't sound like it was part of a pre written press release......which implies that it was a direct response to a question......likely about who will be the starting QB.

I'm wondering if there is any other possible response that he could have given at this time......and if not, doesn't it make the comment totally meaningless?

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:50 PM

View PostDibs, on 15 February 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

I always wonder what prompts people to say the things they say.....in this case....why did Marrone say....

“I spoke with Ryan (Fitzpatrick) and Tarvaris (Jackson) and told them we will have an open competition at the quarterback position – similar to what we will do at all positions on our team heading into our offseason work,” said Marrone. “I believe that our players will embrace this challenge. We are looking forward to working with our players as we prepare for the 2013 season.”

It doesn't sound like it was part of a pre written press release......which implies that it was a direct response to a question......likely about who will be the starting QB.

I'm wondering if there is any other possible response that he could have given at this time......and if not, doesn't it make the comment totally meaningless?
I think you have the point.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 09:03 PM

View Post3rdand12, on 15 February 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

I think this is the case.
What he did in syracuse would be nice.
Clean the place up.
Don't any one fear that we won't be very serious about getting a QB within the first two rounds.

Also and important , i can see him kicking anyone to the curb anytime. Look how they handled T Mcgee and Barnett and Wilson.
Boom.
Professional, respectful  but sudden and complete.

I can imagine Fitz gone shortly if it's about freeing up cap cash.

competiton is a word that does not always mean competition when spoken by The Organization.
It could mean , " yep both you guys are not what we want at this point. maybe you each could start trying ALOT harder to meet our vision "

oh, i didn't realize all caps made a difference. my mistake.
boom?

jw

Edited by john wawrow, 15 February 2013 - 09:04 PM.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 09:09 PM

View Postjohn wawrow, on 15 February 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

oh, i didn't realize all caps made a difference. my mistake.
boom?

jw
yeppers.
I said that.
: )

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 09:11 PM

View Postjohn wawrow, on 15 February 2013 - 08:06 PM, said:

what coach doesn't preach competition. ... of course, Fitzpatrick vs. Jackson is one thing. Mario Williams vs. ? is another, right?

jw

Difference being if Williams gets beat out at LDE, his primary position, odds are he will beat someone else out at RDE. If, god forbid, he gets beat out at RDE, there's always OLB. There are four possible positions for him to play before being relegated to the bench.

For Fitz or Jackson, not so much

Edited by Thurmal34, 15 February 2013 - 09:13 PM.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 09:24 PM

I've been calling for competition at every position for two years... I sure hope Marrone means it... No special treatment, or immunity for any player. -EARN your roster spot.

Very exciting to hear... We'll see how it applies to the QB position.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 10:07 PM

I am excited to hear it. My one concern is that I fail to understand the appeal of competition where the losers still take up incredible amounts of cap space. Fitz is set to make 10 mil, even if most of his cap space is dead money now, and TJax got 4.5 million. That pretty much undoes all of the money we got back from Barnett, Wilson and McGee.