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#1 Lincoln Osiris

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 10:38 PM

As crazy as it might seem, I truly believe the Bills will go in the direction of drafting a safety in the first round. Realistically it's a position that is being somewhat overlooked  and I think it's because there's so many good lineman and LB's. The first safety is Kenny Vaccaro, for his career he has 231 Tot Tak, 5 ints, 24 Pass Def, 2 sacks, and 4 forced fumbles. Here's a highlight reel that i've found. He's rated the top safety on a lot of guys boards.

youtube.com/watch?v=0W2vFYz-1pE

The second safety which is my favorite is Matt Elam. He's a very physical safety who loves to blow up the ball carrier and he's good around the line of scrimmage. He's not a huge guy about 5'10''/205lbs but he's a beast.  He played one less year than Vaccaro but his numbers in college were 176 Tot Tak, 6 Ints, 19 Pass Def, 3 Forced fumbles and 5 sacks. Elam is used to playing against the best players in the country being in the SEC so I put a lot of value on that too. Here's some of Elam's highlights



All of the stats were provided by www.Sports-Reference.com

Thanks for the read, let me know what you guys think.


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Posted 27 February 2013 - 10:47 PM

View PostLincoln Osiris, on 27 February 2013 - 10:38 PM, said:

As crazy as it might seem, I truly believe the Bills will go in the direction of drafting a safety in the first round. Realistically it's a position that is being somewhat overlooked  and I think it's because there's so many good lineman and LB's. The first safety is Kenny Vaccaro, for his career he has 231 Tot Tak, 5 ints, 24 Pass Def, 2 sacks, and 4 forced fumbles. Here's a highlight reel that i've found. He's rated the top safety on a lot of guys boards.

youtube.com/watch?v=0W2vFYz-1pE

The second safety which is my favorite is Matt Elam. He's a very physical safety who loves to blow up the ball carrier and he's good around the line of scrimmage. He's not a huge guy about 5'10''/205lbs but he's a beast.  He played one less year than Vaccaro but his numbers in college were 176 Tot Tak, 6 Ints, 19 Pass Def, 3 Forced fumbles and 5 sacks. Elam is used to playing against the best players in the country being in the SEC so I put a lot of value on that too. Here's some of Elam's highlights



All of the stats were provided by www.Sports-Reference.com

Thanks for the read, let me know what you guys think.


GO BILLS!!!

A tenth DB with their first pick in the last 24 drafts?  It's so crazy, it just might work.  You people come up with some great ideas!

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 10:49 PM

View PostBADOLBEELZ, on 27 February 2013 - 10:47 PM, said:

A tenth DB with their first pick in the last 24 drafts?  It's so crazy, it just might work.  You people come up with some great ideas!

I'm just saying that I wouldn't be surprised is all man

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 11:06 PM

View PostBADOLBEELZ, on 27 February 2013 - 10:47 PM, said:

A tenth DB with their first pick in the last 24 drafts?  It's so crazy, it just might work.  You people come up with some great ideas!

It's only been 1 in the last 5 though.  :beer:

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:52 AM

I have watched a number of FL games the last few years and every time there is a big play made, Elam was the one making it.  He is a total ball hawk, just a pure play maker.  INTS fumbles sacks, coming out of nowhere to blow up the ballcariier.  Like watching Ed Reed or Polumalo just dominate an entire game.

He hasn't gotten any media press, I was really hoping he lasted until our second round pick.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:30 AM

View Postpeterpan, on 28 February 2013 - 09:52 AM, said:

I have watched a number of FL games the last few years and every time there is a big play made, Elam was the one making it.  He is a total ball hawk, just a pure play maker.  INTS fumbles sacks, coming out of nowhere to blow up the ballcariier.  Like watching Ed Reed or Polumalo just dominate an entire game.

He hasn't gotten any media press, I was really hoping he lasted until our second round pick.
No way

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:34 AM

View PostLincoln Osiris, on 27 February 2013 - 10:49 PM, said:

I'm just saying that I wouldn't be surprised is all man

I wouldn't be surprised either, but I would be irate.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:03 AM

Since it's a passing league, I would think if we were to grab a safety it would not be to blow up a ball carrier at the line of scrimmage, but to pick off a pass intent for a TE running thru the middle or if not intercept it break it up.   Given that in the new NFL a defensive person is restricted from smacking a receiver with any force, I want to guy who can cover the field and read the QB.  Just my opinion.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:16 AM

Dude. I would wear two Paper bags on my head, Mark Kelso style if the Bills drafted a Safety at #8 overall, given the more pressing needs on this team.
:bag: :sick:

:bag:

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:50 AM

View PostBringBackFergy, on 28 February 2013 - 10:30 AM, said:

No way

IDK man, I haven't seen any board where he is the highest rated safety, he has been second or even third in some.  He could easily be the 2nd or third safety off the board when you consider his height.

How many safeties usually go in the 1st round?  He could last.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:10 PM

View PostWhy So Serious?, on 28 February 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

Dude. I would wear two Paper bags on my head, Mark Kelso style if the Bills drafted a Safety at #8 overall, given the more pressing needs on this team.
:bag: :sick:

:bag:

I hope you're right, but we currently have 1 safety. Retaining Byrd should be a forgive conclusion, but you never know.  Searcy, while young with upside, is one of the worst starters on our team.  That makes safety a need IMO.  At number 8?  I hope not, but reports were that we wanted mark Barron last season.  We'll see.   One thing I know, anything can happen with this team.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:14 PM

View PostWhy So Serious?, on 28 February 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

Dude. I would wear two Paper bags on my head, Mark Kelso style if the Bills drafted a Safety at #8 overall, given the more pressing needs on this team.
:bag: :sick:

:bag:
My head would explode!

30 DB's drafted over the last 20 years and where has it gotten this team? Vs 4 QB's drafted in that time, and only one #1 draft pick used on a QB. This philosophy needs to reverse big time, 30 QB's drafted in the next 20 years until they find that elusive franchise guy!

Safety may be a minor need, but this team has more pressing needs then to keep drafting DB's year in and year out because they refuse to step up and retain the players they drafted in the first place.

Edited by FeartheLosing, 28 February 2013 - 12:19 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 12:18 PM

We need to go QB or LB with our fisrt pick - NO Exceptions!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:47 PM

View PostDibs, on 27 February 2013 - 11:06 PM, said:

It's only been 1 in the last 5 though.  :beer:

McKelvin, Whitner, and Gilmore.  That would be 3 in the last 8 drafts.

View PostLincoln Osiris, on 27 February 2013 - 10:38 PM, said:

As crazy as it might seem, I truly believe the Bills will go in the direction of drafting a safety in the first round. Realistically it's a position that is being somewhat overlooked  and I think it's because there's so many good lineman and LB's. The first safety is Kenny Vaccaro, for his career he has 231 Tot Tak, 5 ints, 24 Pass Def, 2 sacks, and 4 forced fumbles. Here's a highlight reel that i've found. He's rated the top safety on a lot of guys boards.

youtube.com/watch?v=0W2vFYz-1pE

The second safety which is my favorite is Matt Elam. He's a very physical safety who loves to blow up the ball carrier and he's good around the line of scrimmage. He's not a huge guy about 5'10''/205lbs but he's a beast.  He played one less year than Vaccaro but his numbers in college were 176 Tot Tak, 6 Ints, 19 Pass Def, 3 Forced fumbles and 5 sacks. Elam is used to playing against the best players in the country being in the SEC so I put a lot of value on that too. Here's some of Elam's highlights



All of the stats were provided by www.Sports-Reference.com

Thanks for the read, let me know what you guys think.


GO BILLS!!!

We had a safety like him.  His name was Donte Whitner.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 03:06 PM

I have a feeling we will end up with a couple safeties via FA..........and one better be Byrd!

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 04:23 PM

View PostMr. Wonderful, on 28 February 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

McKelvin, Whitner, and Gilmore.  That would be 3 in the last 8 drafts.

Yeah.....but it was really 1 in the last 5....and 2 in the preceding 3.

That means we are learning from history and won't be drafting a DB in the 1st this year as that would make 2 in 2 years.....which would be going backwards......and that isn't going to happen.  It's not I tell you....it can't....please don't let that happen. :cry:

Edited by Dibs, 28 February 2013 - 04:24 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 05:28 PM

View PostLincoln Osiris, on 27 February 2013 - 10:49 PM, said:

I'm just saying that I wouldn't be surprised is all man

I was just pointing out how many DB's have been picked.  

You were supposed to ask what I meant by "you people" B-)

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 05:34 PM

View PostMr. Wonderful, on 28 February 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

McKelvin, Whitner, and Gilmore.  That would be 3 in the last 8 drafts.



We had a safety like him.  His name was Donte Whitner.
Whitner can't hold Elams' jock though. Similar size but Elam is a monster like I haven't seen in a long time. Incredible fire in his belly. But not @ #8

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 06:03 PM

View PostVirginiaMike, on 28 February 2013 - 11:03 AM, said:

Since it's a passing league, I would think if we were to grab a safety it would not be to blow up a ball carrier at the line of scrimmage, but to pick off a pass intent for a TE running thru the middle or if not intercept it break it up.

Nix is on record as saying you draft cornerbacks and if necessary move them to safety. This is similar to when he said you draft tackles and if necessary move them to guard.

On the other hand, the Bills did draft Searcy who seems to be more of a run-support type safety.

View PostDibs, on 28 February 2013 - 04:23 PM, said:

Yeah.....but it was really 1 in the last 5....and 2 in the preceding 3.

That means we are learning from history and won't be drafting a DB in the 1st this year as that would make 2 in 2 years.....which would be going backwards......and that isn't going to happen.  It's not I tell you....it can't....please don't let that happen. :cry:

(Dibs breaks down sobbing)

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 06:09 PM

View PostBADOLBEELZ, on 28 February 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

I was just pointing out how many DB's have been picked.  

You were supposed to ask what I meant by "you people" B-)

lol