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[Bill from NYC]

trade down in the draft, and get extra draft picks?
  I am guessing that Moore could be had for approx. 3 years/18 million. In this scenario, they could acquire more picks, fill holes, and go after a qb next year.
  I suppose the question is whether or not Bills management thinks that he is better than Fitz. I lean towards thinking that he is.
  Opinions?

[westside]

When will the nightmare end?

[OldTimer1960]

My belief is that there is not a high-probability-of-success QB in this draft, so I could be aligned with this sort of plan.  

I *might* consider Matt Barkley at #8 in round one, but I see that as a gamble.  I am not at all sold on Geno Smith.  I suspect that one of the following will be available when the Bills pick in round 2: Ryan Nassib, EJ Manuel, Tyler Wilson.  IMHO, each is worthy of consideration there.  I am not sure if I'd prefer Matt Moore to one of those, but I suppose that they could sign Moore and still pick one of those 3.

Regarding a trade down, it usually is worth considering.  However, if they have convinced themselves that they don't need to "reach" for a QB in round 1, they should be able to get a very good player at another position with the 8th pick.

[3rdand12]

Bill from NYC, on 05 March 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

trade down in the draft, and get extra draft picks?
  I am guessing that Moore could be had for approx. 3 years/18 million. In this scenario, they could acquire more picks, fill holes, and go after a qb next year.
  I suppose the question is whether or not Bills management thinks that he is better than Fitz. I lean towards thinking that he is.
  Opinions?

worth a look for sure. I like the guy and have hoped for a shot at him. all things considered of course

[Bill from NYC]

OldTimer1960, on 05 March 2013 - 07:34 PM, said:

My belief is that there is not a high-probability-of-success QB in this draft, so I could be aligned with this sort of plan.  

I *might* consider Matt Barkley at #8 in round one, but I see that as a gamble.  I am not at all sold on Geno Smith.  I suspect that one of the following will be available when the Bills pick in round 2: Ryan Nassib, EJ Manuel, Tyler Wilson.  IMHO, each is worthy of consideration there.  I am not sure if I'd prefer Matt Moore to one of those, but I suppose that they could sign Moore and still pick one of those 3.

Regarding a trade down, it usually is worth considering.  However, if they have convinced themselves that they don't need to "reach" for a QB in round 1, they should be able to get a very good player at another position with the 8th pick.

I like Tyler Bray more than the kids that you mentioned. And he probably won't be ready to step in as a rookie.
Either way, I am just floating ideas around.

[westside]

I would rather we draft another cb in the first round than sign Matt Moore.

[bobobonators]

the grass will always be greener...

[Rockinon]

westside, on 05 March 2013 - 07:43 PM, said:

I would rather we draft another cb in the first round than sign Matt Moore.

Wow.....I'm guessing you don't approve.

[Section242]

_{For what?  Why bring in a guy who isn't good enough to start in the league to compete with two other guys who aren't good enough?}

Edited by Section242, 05 March 2013 - 07:50 PM.

[westside]

Rockinon, on 05 March 2013 - 07:47 PM, said:

Wow.....I'm guessing you don't approve.

I'm just tired of one retread at qb after another.

[Rob's House]

westside, on 05 March 2013 - 07:43 PM, said:

I would rather we draft another cb in the first round than sign Matt Moore.

You're the guy who said Mario is below average. Your opinion doesn't matter.

[westside]

For the amount of money they paid him, he is below average. As far as what you think matters, take that crap back to PPP.

[Rockinon]

westside, on 05 March 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

I'm just tired of one retread at qb after another.

I got that.  I was just funnin' with ya.

[westside]

Rockinon, on 05 March 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:

I got that.  I was just funnin' with ya.

LOL, that's ok. Is Moore any better than Fitz? I don't think so.

[KOKBILLS]

Bill from NYC, on 05 March 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

trade down in the draft, and get extra draft picks?
  I am guessing that Moore could be had for approx. 3 years/18 million. In this scenario, they could acquire more picks, fill holes, and go after a qb next year.
I suppose the question is whether or not Bills management thinks that he is better than Fitz. I lean towards thinking that he is.
  Opinions?

He is...

[NoSaint]

westside, on 05 March 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:

LOL, that's ok. Is Moore any better than Fitz? I don't think so.

All things aside - I'd take Moore over fitz

Also a quarter of the price, or less

[westside]

NoSaint, on 05 March 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

All things aside - I'd take Moore over fitz

Also a quarter of the price, or less

i would rather go with a rookie qb than either of those guys. I just want to have some hope for the future for a change.

[Hopeful]

Bill from NYC, on 05 March 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

trade down in the draft, and get extra draft picks?
  I am guessing that Moore could be had for approx. 3 years/18 million. In this scenario, they could acquire more picks, fill holes, and go after a qb next year.
  I suppose the question is whether or not Bills management thinks that he is better than Fitz. I lean towards thinking that he is.
  Opinions?

Pick the QB:
Completion  YPA   TD%   INT% FUM% QBR
59% 6.95   4.4%  3.4% 2% 80.5
60% 6.37   4.1%  3.6% 1% 76.8

One of these is Fitz.  One of these is Moore.  Is one is a significant upgrade over the other, worth investing another $18 million?

For Moore's 2011 season starting 12 games for the Dolphins, his completion percentage ranged from 47% to 74%.  YPG from 95 to 281.  YPA from 4.2 to 10.8.
More consistent than Fitz?

NoSaint, on 05 March 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

All things aside - I'd take Moore over fitz

Also a quarter of the price, or less

Just a note that the OP suggested 3 years/$18 million as Moore's price.

PS I'd be kind of surprised if a team offers Moore that much money, myself.

Edited by Hopeful, 05 March 2013 - 08:13 PM.

[JR in Pittsburgh]

Bill from NYC, on 05 March 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

  I am guessing that Moore could be had for approx. 3 years/18 million.

18 million dollars? To use my favorite joke from elementary school, I think Moore could be had for 18 million doll hairs.

[westside]

JR In Ann Arbor, on 05 March 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

18 million dollars? To use my favorite joke from elementary school, I think Moore could be had for 18 million doll hairs.

That made me laugh. Haha!