Jump to content


What Might Have Been?


  • Please log in to reply
39 replies to this topic

#1 Mooshocker

Mooshocker

    UDFA

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 61 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:21 PM

You know, I have read a lot about what might have been if the Bills would have selected Big Ben, Flacco, Wilson, Kapernick, Dalton, etc.

That said, what is to say that with our terrible coaching staff over the past decade, our horrible coordinators, QB coaches, sub par lines, WR's, RB's, TE's, etc., that ANY of these successful QB's would have had any succes in Buffalo?!

Sure, there are many intangibles that can't be coached, however, what type of support would we have provided these QB's?  Does anyone believe Tom Brady would have had the same success in Buffalo with the likes of some of the supporting cast we have put on the field.  RB's like Derrick Holmes, Joe Burns, Shawn Bryson; WR's like Sam Aiken, Avion Black ; TE's like Mark Campbell and Brad Cieslak.

The list goes on and on.  I too hope this new regime sees what has become so painfully obvious to all of us armchair qb's.  We can't compete or contend in this league until our administration, team, coaches and scouts place a priority on seeing the obvious, having courage to make changes and investing money in their product on a larger scale that a quick hit to sell tickets.

Thoughts?

#2 Dr. Trooth

Dr. Trooth

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,202 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:25 PM

Let it go. Wooduhcooduhshooduh but didn't. You don't move forward by looking backward.

#3 CardinalScotts

CardinalScotts

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,110 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:28 PM

so we would have a different qb who at this point is throwing to non-NFL caliber players. Again with a spanish armada defense you might be able to win- needing 50 a game they wouldnt either. The Donald Jones, David Nelson rumors are flying teams are lining up.

#4 Captain Hindsight

Captain Hindsight

    All Pro

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,907 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 08:52 PM

Let's leave the hindsight to the experts :P

#5 Bangarang

Bangarang

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,270 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:00 PM

Still can't believe we missed out on Brady.

#6 Mooshocker

Mooshocker

    UDFA

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 61 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:05 PM

Dr. Trooth...my point exactly.  Yet, boundless threads suggest "if we only drafted Russell Wilson"...etc.  We need to move on and develop our own.

#7 Cotton Fitzsimmons

Cotton Fitzsimmons

    RFA

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,487 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:06 PM

View PostCaptain Hindsight, on 06 March 2013 - 08:52 PM, said:

Let's leave the hindsight to the experts :P

Captain, my good friend, bravo! Jolly good show!

#8 Dibs

Dibs

    Myth Buster

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,680 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:08 PM

View PostMooshocker, on 06 March 2013 - 08:21 PM, said:

You know, I have read a lot about what might have been if the Bills would have selected Big Ben, Flacco, Wilson, Kapernick, Dalton, etc.

That said, what is to say that with our terrible coaching staff over the past decade, our horrible coordinators, QB coaches, sub par lines, WR's, RB's, TE's, etc., that ANY of these successful QB's would have had any succes in Buffalo?!

You can have as many good coaching staffs, coordinators, QB coaches, lines, WRs, RBs, TEs etc as you want........if you don't have a top QB, you typically won't be going very far into the playoffs.

#9 Triple Threat

Triple Threat

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,021 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 09:27 PM

View PostMooshocker, on 06 March 2013 - 08:21 PM, said:

You know, I have read a lot about what might have been if the Bills would have selected Big Ben, Flacco, Wilson, Kapernick, Dalton, etc.

That said, what is to say that with our terrible coaching staff over the past decade, our horrible coordinators, QB coaches, sub par lines, WR's, RB's, TE's, etc., that ANY of these successful QB's would have had any succes in Buffalo?!

Sure, there are many intangibles that can't be coached, however, what type of support would we have provided these QB's?  Does anyone believe Tom Brady would have had the same success in Buffalo with the likes of some of the supporting cast we have put on the field.  RB's like Derrick Holmes, Joe Burns, Shawn Bryson; WR's like Sam Aiken, Avion Black ; TE's like Mark Campbell and Brad Cieslak.

The list goes on and on.  I too hope this new regime sees what has become so painfully obvious to all of us armchair qb's.  We can't compete or contend in this league until our administration, team, coaches and scouts place a priority on seeing the obvious, having courage to make changes and investing money in their product on a larger scale that a quick hit to sell tickets.

Thoughts?

I can't believe we passed on Ben, oh wait we didn't.

#10 ganesh

ganesh

    You can do things on a football field that are severely illegal

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,795 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:09 PM

View PostDr. Trooth, on 06 March 2013 - 08:25 PM, said:

Let it go. Wooduhcooduhshooduh but didn't. You don't move forward by looking backward.

But...But I thought that we had to take few steps backward to take more steps forward!

View PostTriple Threat, on 06 March 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

I can't believe we passed on Ben, oh wait we didn't.
Let us beat up on another dead-horse.

View PostDibs, on 06 March 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:


You can have as many good coaching staffs, coordinators, QB coaches, lines, WRs, RBs, TEs etc as you want........if you don't have a top QB, you typically won't be going very far into the playoffs.

They all go hand-in-hand !

#11 georg793

georg793

    Rookie

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 281 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:14 PM

View PostBangarang, on 06 March 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:

Still can't believe we missed out on Brady.
IM still upset over peyton manning

#12 mob16151

mob16151

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,799 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:15 PM

So were making the giant freaking assumption, that these guys would have had the exact same careers in Buffalo,they had with the teams that drafted them?   Ok then.................................................

#13 Saratoga Leo

Saratoga Leo

    UDFA

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 129 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:24 PM

View Postmob16151, on 06 March 2013 - 10:15 PM, said:

So were making the giant freaking assumption, that these guys would have had the exact same careers in Buffalo,they had with the teams that drafted them?   Ok then.................................................
Put down the beer and read paragraph two and three from the original poster real slowly. You will realize what a giant freaking stupid post your's is.

#14 mob16151

mob16151

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,799 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:35 PM

View PostSaratoga Leo, on 06 March 2013 - 10:24 PM, said:

Put down the beer and read paragraph two and three from the original poster real slowly. You will realize what a giant freaking stupid post your's is.

Let me break this down real quick junior, the above post is,we suck at drafting,we could draft all stars but it doesn't matter,because we suck at drafting,Ralph is cheap,Nix sucks,every QB ever is better than Fitzpatrick,repeat ad nauseam. Welcome to TBD's annual offseason. Enjoy automated response number 1.

I will say this one was better worded than the last ten of these types of posts......so thats looking up. :thumbsup:

#15 Green Lightning

Green Lightning

    Mr. Peanut

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,640 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:44 PM

What if Napoleon had a B-1 bomber at Waterloo?

#16 mob16151

mob16151

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,799 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:46 PM

View PostGreen Lightning, on 06 March 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

What if Napoleon had a B-1 bomber at Waterloo?


What if Hamilton had shot Burr??? WoooOOOooooOOOoooo

#17 Bronc24

Bronc24

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,111 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:48 PM

You can speculate, but you can never know.  A solid QB might have turned the fortunes of this franchise around.  He may have helped prevent the coaching carousel we have had.  He may not.  Bottom line is a good QB solves a hell of a lot of problems.

#18 Green Lightning

Green Lightning

    Mr. Peanut

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,640 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:51 PM

View Postmob16151, on 06 March 2013 - 10:46 PM, said:




What if Hamilton had shot Burr??? WoooOOOooooOOOoooo

Fer sure we'd have a franchise quarterback then.

#19 mob16151

mob16151

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,799 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:52 PM

View PostGreen Lightning, on 06 March 2013 - 10:51 PM, said:

Fer sure we'd have a franchise quarterback then.

Well played sir,you win this round

#20 Billsrhody

Billsrhody

    RFA

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,027 posts

Posted 06 March 2013 - 11:10 PM

Andrew Luck proves that a good quarterback can make all the difference