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#1 MattM

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:32 PM

http://www.nytimes.c...ref=sports&_r=0

About two-thirds of the way through:

"A native of Buffalo, she has endured years of disappointment as a Bills fan, though she has lately found herself siding with the nearby New England Patriots.
“It’s actually fun to win for change,” she said. “I like being happy.” "

That probably describes more than half their national fanbase.....

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 06:09 PM

cant wait for macia to retire and belicheat to go back to the career .500 non-genius

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 06:14 PM

I'm a lifelong die hard pats fan and let me tell you we have too many of these people around.  I live in Mass and in the 1989-1992 span noone was a fan.  I got season tickets in 1991 and it was very uncool in NEW ENGLAND to like the patriots or go to games unless a solid opponent was in.  I love the pre-Parcells group of fans who can joke about players like Hart Lee Dykes and not think i'm making some rude comment about sexual orientation.  I have strong respect for the Kraft bought the team group and the people who made season ticket purchases and have been a big part of banging out every pre,regular and postseason game since the Saints preseason game in 1994.  The post 2001 fans are rediculous.  Its a novelty to be a fan and occasionally go to a game and text people while telling people in front to sit down on third down.  I ignore these people, i don't like them either and find them intolerable.  Have a good offseason guys, looking forward to being at the Ralph for our annual trip.  Many of your fans are just really cool people.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 07:16 PM

/Stunned silence

View Postbuddylove, on 09 March 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

I'm a lifelong die hard pats fan and let me tell you we have too many of these people around.  I live in Mass and in the 1989-1992 span noone was a fan.  I got season tickets in 1991 and it was very uncool in NEW ENGLAND to like the patriots or go to games unless a solid opponent was in.  I love the pre-Parcells group of fans who can joke about players like Hart Lee Dykes and not think i'm making some rude comment about sexual orientation.  I have strong respect for the Kraft bought the team group and the people who made season ticket purchases and have been a big part of banging out every pre,regular and postseason game since the Saints preseason game in 1994.  The post 2001 fans are rediculous.  Its a novelty to be a fan and occasionally go to a game and text people while telling people in front to sit down on third down.  I ignore these people, i don't like them either and find them intolerable.  Have a good offseason guys, looking forward to being at the Ralph for our annual trip.  Many of your fans are just really cool people.

Thanks for the positive affirmations directed at us and the negative ones directed at the fair-weather faction of your fandom.

I don't know how many of us visit the discussion forums for our AFC East rivals but it's cool that you dropped in.

Of course we hate your team with a vengeance so there's that too.

I can't really wish you a good season but thanks again for posting here.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:43 PM

I understand, we're in the same division.  Their isn't supposed to be love.  I call em like i see em.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 09:09 PM

View Postbuddylove, on 09 March 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:

I understand, we're in the same division.  Their isn't supposed to be love.  I call em like i see em.

BTW, what is your view of Stevan Ridley?

Curious to know how a knowledgeable New England fan views him?

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 09:54 PM

I love his effort on every play.  He hits the hole hard and gets what he can.  My two worries are a short shelf life because of the hits he takes and his ability to hold onto the ball when its wet or cold.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 11:49 PM

Welcome to the Board, BL.  That description kind of reminds me of Lawrence Maroney, who looked like a HOFer at times during his rookie year, running through or around people, but then seemed to shy away from contact more and more as his career went on.  Very odd career arc....

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 11:52 PM

View PostSan Jose Bills Fan, on 09 March 2013 - 09:09 PM, said:

BTW, what is your view of Stevan Ridley?

Curious to know how a knowledgeable New England fan views him?

As a fantasy football player who views RBs as gold I see a lot of value in Ridley FWIW. I watch a ton of football since I usually have about 9 teams for fantasy and I think he is the real deal.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 04:14 AM

View Postbuddylove, on 09 March 2013 - 09:54 PM, said:

I love his effort on every play.  He hits the hole hard and gets what he can.  My two worries are a short shelf life because of the hits he takes and his ability to hold onto the ball when its wet or cold.

View PostNDBUFFCUSEFAN, on 09 March 2013 - 11:52 PM, said:

As a fantasy football player who views RBs as gold I see a lot of value in Ridley FWIW. I watch a ton of football since I usually have about 9 teams for fantasy and I think he is the real deal.


Thank you both for the feedback.

I'm still very undecided about the guy.

I know he has talent but it seems there have been more flakes at running back then any other position. Like Matt points out with Maroney, some of these guys implode very quickly.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:26 AM

Good post Buddylove.  No real surprise there.

Here's to hoping the Patriots play outstanding games against Buffalo...............................in a losing cause !!  LOL !

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:57 AM

View PostMeathead, on 09 March 2013 - 06:09 PM, said:

cant wait for macia to retire and belicheat to go back to the career .500 non-genius
Yep the guy's defensive game plan with the Giants that beat the Bills was all because of Brady.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:27 PM

ndbuffcusefan.  The two guys from this class i really like are Zac Stacy and Knile Davis.  Proven sec runners, can play all three downs and flying under the radar.  I've got a question and comment regarding the Bills

1. I think Doug Marrone is a hell of a coach and the next big name in the league.  He went to Syracuse with the offensive lineman mentality of building a team from the inside out on both sides.  He'll be happy to have the defensive line you've constructed and will work hard with the o-line should you lose Levitre.  Warmack may not be a sexy pick but look at guys like Iupati as plug n play guards from day one. What are your thoughts on Marrone???

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:29 PM

View Postbuddylove, on 10 March 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

ndbuffcusefan.  The two guys from this class i really like are Zac Stacy and Knile Davis.  Proven sec runners, can play all three downs and flying under the radar.  I've got a question and comment regarding the Bills

1. I think Doug Marrone is a hell of a coach and the next big name in the league.  He went to Syracuse with the offensive lineman mentality of building a team from the inside out on both sides.  He'll be happy to have the defensive line you've constructed and will work hard with the o-line should you lose Levitre.  Warmack may not be a sexy pick but look at guys like Iupati as plug n play guards from day one. What are your thoughts on Marrone???

I hope I'm wrong, but it's a bit tough to get too enthused about someone who's main accomplishment to date has been turning a crappy college program into a mediocre one....

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 12:00 PM

View PostJim in Anchorage, on 10 March 2013 - 08:57 AM, said:

Yep the guy's defensive game plan with the Giants that beat the Bills was all because of Brady.

While the Giants defensive game plan in SB25 was good, it was their OFFENSIVE game plan of pounding the football and keeping out of Buffalo's hands that won them that game.  The Bills scored 19 pts in 19 minutes (ok take away the safety), but still 17 offensive pts in 19 minutes isn't shabby.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 12:11 PM

View PostMcD, on 11 March 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

While the Giants defensive game plan in SB25 was good, it was their OFFENSIVE game plan of pounding the football and keeping out of Buffalo's hands that won them that game.  The Bills scored 19 pts in 19 minutes (ok take away the safety), but still 17 offensive pts in 19 minutes isn't shabby.

They'd have scored more if Reed didn't start hearing footsteps.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 04:49 PM

View PostMcD, on 11 March 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

While the Giants defensive game plan in SB25 was good, it was their OFFENSIVE game plan of pounding the football and keeping out of Buffalo's hands that won them that game.  The Bills scored 19 pts in 19 minutes (ok take away the safety), but still 17 offensive pts in 19 minutes isn't shabby.
Yup. The game plan was just to sell out vs the pass, frequently dropping 8 or even 9 men into coverage.  The result was that the Bills ran it right down their throats: 25 rushes, 166 yards, 6.6 ypc, 2 rushing TDs.  The Giants defense did OK but they didn't really stop the Bills offense.  The problem was that the Bills defense couldn't get off the field.  I don't see what the Giants defensive game plan had to do with that.

Edited by vincec, 11 March 2013 - 04:49 PM.


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Posted 11 March 2013 - 04:50 PM

View PostMattM, on 09 March 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

That probably describes more than half of every single team's national fanbase.....

fixed.

Edited by jeremy2020, 11 March 2013 - 04:50 PM.


#19 MattM

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 07:14 PM

View Postjeremy2020, on 11 March 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:



fixed.

View Postjeremy2020, on 11 March 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:



fixed.

Could be, but I'd wager they have far more fair weather fans than other big national teams like the Steelers or Packers....

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 05:18 PM

View PostJim in Anchorage, on 10 March 2013 - 08:57 AM, said:


Yep the guy's defensive game plan with the Giants that beat the Bills was all because of Brady.

He cheated in that game too. Remember all of the "injury" timeouts that derailed the no-huddle?
Legal at the time, but a typical, sleazy Bellicheat move.
It seems to me the NFL competition committee instituted the loss of a timeout if there was an injury inside of two minutes soon after that game....