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#1 Kellyto83TD

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:08 PM

His pre draft report...

Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader.

Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you'd like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can't drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.

Summary: Is not what you're looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone.


#2 Erik

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:09 PM

View PostKellyto83TD, on 15 March 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

His pre draft report...

Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader.

Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you'd like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can't drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.

Summary: Is not what you're looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone.


Brady

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:13 PM

I posted this elsewhere.  Its brady


#4 Meathead

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:17 PM

see bill really is a genius

#5 The Poojer

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:18 PM

Brian Griese

#6 the skycap

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:19 PM

Damn, I thought it was Mike Glennon.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:27 PM

View PostKellyto83TD, on 15 March 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games.

Maybe these should be the main factors in searching out a QB rather than height/arm strength/speed, etc.

Intelligence, poise, accuracy, touch, produces in big games

These seem to be those intangibles everyone always talks about that Brady has in spades...producing in big games
shows the competiveness, leadership, and want to be great; poise shows mental toughness (not letting things get to you); intelligence,
accuracy, and touch (doesn't make a lot of mistakes).

Edited by folz, 15 March 2013 - 06:28 PM.


#8 RevWarRifleman

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:30 PM

I'm going to assume its a Bill. Outside of the Bills, it could be a lot of people. So, I'm going to say....Todd Collins. I kind of remember hearing some of those things when we drafted him.

#9 wonderbread

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:38 PM

Billy Joe Hebert

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:39 PM

I assume Bob Griese

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:49 PM

I freaking love how they compare him to Griese, who did NOTHING in his career.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:50 PM

View Postjboyst62, on 15 March 2013 - 06:49 PM, said:

I freaking love how they compare him to Griese, who did NOTHING in his career.

Disappointed.  Came into this thread expecting to see something about a leg press

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:54 PM

View PostErik, on 15 March 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

Disappointed.  Came into this thread expecting to see something about a leg press
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#14 westside

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:56 PM

Goes to show you, Qb's are a dime a dozen.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 07:05 PM

View PostNoSaint, on 15 March 2013 - 06:39 PM, said:

I assume Bob Griese
The Brian Griese comparison is because he succeeded Griese as QB at Michigan after Griese led the Wolverines to the national championship. Griese's leadership was widely credited as a major factor in the Wolverine run (that and Charles Woodson).  In fact Brady had trouble replacing Griese although he had a better arm and better accuracy.  I remember reading at the time that Brady's superior physical tools were "fools gold" and that he did not have Griese's leadership skills, which was true in college.  As a matter of fact, QB guru Bill Walsh though that Griese was the best QB prospect of his class which included Peyton Manning.

Edited by vincec, 15 March 2013 - 07:05 PM.


#16 Captain Caveman

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 07:25 PM

Yeah, all the Griese comparisons give Brady away.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 07:33 PM

Too easy. Knew it was Brady pretty quick, even had a suspicion that it was him when I saw the title of the thread.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 07:44 PM

View PostCaptain Caveman, on 15 March 2013 - 07:25 PM, said:

Yeah, all the Griese comparisons give Brady away.

That and the fact that this is posted every single year, multiple times, in the exact same thread question of "name that player" during the season, after the season, and before the draft

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 09:16 PM

Cannot believe the lack of respect you all show for Todd Collins.

#20 Kellyto83TD

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 09:18 PM

Oh its Brady. Point being the talking heads don't know **** when it comes to evaluating players. yeah they hit on one or two but if they really knew something NFL teams would pay huge to have them on their staffs.

It also shows most of the NFL front offices can't evaluate talent for crap. Its a crap shoot every year period. Who knows if one of these QB's can do the job or not? I know this continuing to wait till next year, or next year, or next year is why we are in this spot.