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#1 Dat '315' Dude

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:24 AM

Todd McShay just released his latest mock
RD 1- Buffalo Bills select Chance Warmack- G/Alabama
RD 2- Ryan Nassib -QB /Syracuse
:flirt:

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:27 AM

View PostDat, on 28 March 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:

Todd McShay just released his latest mock
RD 1- Buffalo Bills select Chance Warmack- G/Alabama
RD 2- Ryan Nassib -QB /Syracuse
:flirt:
makes perfect sense to me...

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:29 AM

I truly hate the idea of using a first round pick to fill a hole created during FA.

See: McKelvin, Leodis.

Edited by taC giB ehT, 28 March 2013 - 11:29 AM.


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:29 AM

We can find guards is the 3rd round or later....

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:32 AM

God help us, I can see those bozos doing this.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:33 AM

Never going to happen.   They will not use a top 10 pick on a guard.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:35 AM

View PosttaC giB ehT, on 28 March 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

I truly hate the idea of using a first round pick to fill a hole created during FA.

See: McKelvin, Leodis.

I couldn't agree anymore.  And what happens if Warmack turns out to be good?  Then they let him go four years from now too?  I'm not worried about it though.  Draft a guard late, let him compete with Colin Brown and David Snow and the offensive line will be absolutely fine.  We have way more pressing needs at this point.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:38 AM

The difference between an "elite" guard, and a good NFL guard is not big enough to justify an 8th pick.

Pick an impact, skill position.



PS: don't take Nassib please.


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Edited by B-Man, 28 March 2013 - 11:39 AM.


#9 Leelee Phoenix

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:38 AM

View Postbananathumb, on 28 March 2013 - 11:32 AM, said:

God help us, I can see those bozos doing this.
Me too. Warmack and Nassib would infuriate me the most.

Warmack is a very good guard, but he'll be gone in 4 years.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:40 AM

Don't see it happening, Buddy seems like he find guards and linemen off the scrap heap.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:40 AM

nobody picks a guard that high.  we need LB help more than an interior offensive lineman.  does he just pull these picks out of his butt or what?

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:46 AM

View PostLeelee Phoenix, on 28 March 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

Me too. Warmack and Nassib would infuriate me the most.

Warmack is a very good guard, but he'll be gone in 4 years.
Why do you say that?

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:46 AM

View Postkdiggz, on 28 March 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

nobody picks a guard that high.
Common rules like that are thrown out for this draft. There's no blue chippers.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:48 AM

View PostLeelee Phoenix, on 28 March 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

Common rules like that are thrown out for this draft. There's no blue chippers.
ok maybe someone will take him higher than guards usually get picked but it definitely shouldn't be us.  we don't need a guard THAT bad.  we have too many other more important holes (QB, LB, WR)

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:51 AM

View PostRob, on 28 March 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

Why do you say that?
The Bills had an elite guard in Levitre, arguably the best pass blocking guard in the league with high YPC to the left side, and he wanted to stay in Buffalo. Maybe Ralph dies and Russ Brandon goes away by then, but I'm not betting on it. If they're not paying to keep Levitre, they're not paying for anyone good at the position.

There's still value in having Warmack for 4 years at a relatively cheap price tag, assuming that he ends up being a top guard. Big assumption.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:54 AM

View PostLeelee Phoenix, on 28 March 2013 - 11:51 AM, said:

The Bills had an elite guard in Levitre, arguably the best pass blocking guard in the league with high YPC to the left side, and he wanted to stay in Buffalo. Maybe Ralph dies and Russ Brandon goes away by then, but I'm not betting on it. If they're not paying to keep Levitre, they're not paying for anyone good at the position.

There's still value in having Warmack for 4 years at a relatively cheap price tag, assuming that he ends up being a top guard. Big assumption.
And the legend of Levitre continues to grow. I heard that Levitre once killed a Grizzly bear with his bare hands.

In all seriousness, it is possible that he wasn't resigned because the team didn't value the position as highly. But then, it's also possible that the team didn't value that particular player that highly. Assuming that because they didn't resign one player at a particular position that they will never resign a player at that same position is faulty logic.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:55 AM

View PosttaC giB ehT, on 28 March 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

I truly hate the idea of using a first round pick to fill a hole created during FA.

See: McKelvin, Leodis.

That's the way thing roll at OBD.  Like a hamster running in a wheel the Bills take one step back and one step forward.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:01 PM

View PostMaddog69, on 28 March 2013 - 11:33 AM, said:

Never going to happen.   They will not use a top 10 pick on a guard.

I hope you're right.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:01 PM

View PostLeelee Phoenix, on 28 March 2013 - 11:51 AM, said:

The Bills had an elite guard in Levitre, arguably the best pass blocking guard in the league with high YPC to the left side, and he wanted to stay in Buffalo. Maybe Ralph dies and Russ Brandon goes away by then, but I'm not betting on it. If they're not paying to keep Levitre, they're not paying for anyone good at the position.

There's still value in having Warmack for 4 years at a relatively cheap price tag, assuming that he ends up being a top guard. Big assumption.

Levitre is not an elite guard.  His is a good pass blocker (not great) and a good pulling guard.  He is not a bad run blocker, but he's not a great one either. He gets overpowered a lot of times. He may be above average overall, but he's not in the Logan Mankins stratosphere.

Levitre does, or should get points for not missing a game in four seasons and versatility

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:02 PM

i agree, the Bills set precedent by showing they do not value Guard play that high.  they may not be the same exact player but close enough.

if they won't pay their own guy 7.8M, i don't see how they use a top 10 pick on one and pay him 5M dollars.  that seems... well, stupid.





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