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#1 Bangarang

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:21 PM

Some guys did terrible. My favorite Robert Woods looks good. According to the score, Tavon Austin is illiterate. These scores probably don't mean as much for WRs as it does for QBs but its still fun to see how these guys do.

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From the @BobMcGinn article, Wonderlic scores from WRs: C.Patterson (11), T.Austin (7), K.Allen (19), R,Woods (23), J.Hunter (12).

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Edited by Bangarang, 18 April 2013 - 12:25 PM.


#2 BringBackFergy

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:27 PM

Holy chit...maybe my 7 yr old daughter has a "Leapster" program they can borrow.  Those are some dreadful scores.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:29 PM

View PostBringBackFergy, on 18 April 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

Holy chit...maybe my 7 yr old daughter has a "Leapster" program they can borrow.  Those are some dreadful scores.

Yea, anything even bordering on single digits amounts to filling random bubbles on the sheet.

Sadly, those are not uncommon scores.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:31 PM

Meaningless for WR for the not part, se with RBs. Look up the historical scores, they'll prove it. I'll take a dumb WR anyday... Moss had a 12 and AJ green a 10.

You won't find a Super Bowl winner with a Wonderlic less than I think 15 (Bradshaw) with the next lowest I found being Favre with like a 22.

There's a highly positive correlation between playoff and Super Bowl wins and higher wonderlics for QB...

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:34 PM

View Postzonabb, on 18 April 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:

Meaningless for WR for the not part, se with RBs. Look up the historical scores, they'll prove it. I'll take a dumb WR anyday... Moss had a 12 and AJ green a 10.

You won't find a Super Bowl winner with a Wonderlic less than I think 15 (Bradshaw) with the next lowest I found being Favre with like a 22.

There's a highly positive correlation between playoff and Super Bowl wins and higher wonderlics for QB...
Still though, it is somewhat disheartening to think these guys went to good colleges and can only pull a 10 on this test...did they attend class at all such that their brains had a basic workout in the last 3-4 years??

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:36 PM

View PostNoSaint, on 18 April 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

Yea, anything even bordering on single digits amounts to filling random bubbles on the sheet.

Sadly, those are not uncommon scores.
Woods and Allen are more well spoken and went to Cal and USC... and scored much higher than the articulately challenged Patterson and Austin from Tenn and West Virgina.  Shocking.

Edited by Brainiac21, 18 April 2013 - 12:37 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:55 PM

Wonderlic scores? WGAS? Can the guy play or not?

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:58 PM

View Post26CornerBlitz, on 18 April 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:

Wonderlic scores? WGAS? Can the guy play or not?

at the very least, knowing hes illiterate before you bring him into camp might help you with the transition and teaching process.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:00 PM

what was TJ Grahams?  I'm trying to figure out how smart you need to be to know to run IN FRONT of the safeties on a slant pattern in the endzone

Edited by kdiggz, 18 April 2013 - 01:01 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:01 PM

View PostNoSaint, on 18 April 2013 - 12:58 PM, said:

at the very least, knowing hes illiterate before you bring him into camp might help you with the transition and teaching process.
At the draft luncheon they did make a point of saying the Bills coaches wanted smart players... so not a stretch to say it could be a factor.  It was also reported that Patterson did not interview well, which could reflect this low score.  I really don't think anyone but Hunter was truly a likely candidate for the Bills anyway.  A 12 might not scare them off of him, at least in round 2, since he reportedly has solid character.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:01 PM

View Post26CornerBlitz, on 18 April 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:

Wonderlic scores? WGAS? Can the guy play or not?
Todd McShay said this morning on Mike&Mike that Patterson has fallen down the draft board because he has a tough time recognizing where to go in certain defensive alignments or in blitzing situations...not that McShay is a super reliable source, but this is what he heard from other GM's. I guess the Wonderlic is supposed to gauge a players ability to analyze and respond quickly. In Patterson's case, it may reflect the truth. He's not a quick learner.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:05 PM

View Postkdiggz, on 18 April 2013 - 01:00 PM, said:

what was TJ Grahams?  I'm trying to figure out how smart you need to be to know to run IN FRONT of the safeties on a slant pattern in the endzone
So that it would have been well over his head, and even further behind him?  It's a read/judgement call... he nobly took the blame, but looked like a horrible throw no matter what.  Graham sounds pretty smarty, bet he got a 20 or more.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:06 PM

I think it's a big deal. to me, a low score is a good indicator as to someone who is more likely to make costly mental mistakes on the field.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:08 PM

View Postpapazoid, on 18 April 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

I think it's a big deal. to me, a low score is a good indicator as to someone who is more likely to make costly mental mistakes on the field.
I'll second that.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:09 PM

View PostBrainiac21, on 18 April 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

So that it would have been well over his head, and even further behind him?  It's a read/judgement call... he nobly took the blame, but looked like a horrible throw no matter what.  Graham sounds pretty smarty, bet he got a 20 or more.
If he ran in front of the safety then it was a TD.  Because he didn't the safety stepped in front and it was an INT.  TJ's response after the game was "that's probably why I don't play very much."  He doesn't sound that smart to me.  He should stick to track and field

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:10 PM

View Postpapazoid, on 18 April 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

I think it's a big deal. to me, a low score is a good indicator as to someone who is more likely to make costly mental mistakes on the field.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:12 PM

View Postkdiggz, on 18 April 2013 - 01:00 PM, said:

what was TJ Grahams?  I'm trying to figure out how smart you need to be to know to run IN FRONT of the safeties on a slant pattern in the endzone

Apparently he's not as smart as fritz.....the guy who threw the ball to the guy not in position.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:13 PM

Doesn't surprised me to see a decent score from Woods.  He always seemed like a relatively bright guy to me in interviews.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:13 PM

Anyone know what Kelly's score was?

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:13 PM

View Postzonabb, on 18 April 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:

Meaningless for WR for the not part, se with RBs. Look up the historical scores, they'll prove it. I'll take a dumb WR anyday... Moss had a 12 and AJ green a 10.

You won't find a Super Bowl winner with a Wonderlic less than I think 15 (Bradshaw) with the next lowest I found being Favre with like a 22.

There's a highly positive correlation between playoff and Super Bowl wins and higher wonderlics for QB...

Hence Kelly and Marino.

I'm guessing that these WRs looked at that test and doodled on the answer sheet because they know that after that entire process of the combine, interviews and pro days, no team is gong to make any decision where to take them based on those test results.  

Edited by Mr. WEO, 18 April 2013 - 01:15 PM.