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#1 NastyMan

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 10:58 PM

With a lot of mock drafts on NFL.com now day's have the Bills taking G. Smith QB, my question is would you be O.K. with the Bills taking him first and R. Nassib in the third round if he is there?  Kind of like the Redskins did last year to have a real QB competition this summer even though we have so many other needs to address.  Or would you rather us take C. Warmack in the first and a QB in the second and third since none of the QB's this year really deserve a first round pick and if we did pick one in the first round we would be reaching IMO.  Thoughts.....

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 11:25 PM

No. Too many needs.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 12:32 AM

-  Barkley has enough arm to flourish in a West Coast OFF.
-  Smith will be drafted before the 8th pick by the Eagles.
- Nassib ran the New Orleans style OFF. @ Syracuse.


Above all, The QB talent in the first round is superior to Fitzpatrick's arm strength. In Bills country there is no comparing 2012 to 2013 passers;infact, I have no doubt Nix will take Nassib or Barkley he don't trade down for extra picks.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:03 AM

Im tipping Barkley at 8, Nix likes him and said that he thinks theres 3 franchise QB in the draft. I like idea of trading down but if it doesnt happen you need to take him at 8 . Nassib, Smith and Barkley arent making it to 41.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 07:13 AM

Geno Smith is not a consideration for the Bills in any round.  It would be a wasted pick.

Barkely has no track record at any level, either living in or playing in, cold, windy, snowy, sloppy weather. Also, the last two qbs that Lane Kiffen produced were Matt Leinart and John David Booty. His latest product "regressed" from his junior season to his senior season. Something to consider.

The last three California QBs the Bills started... Johnson, Losman, and Edwards went badly. Caveat emptor.

Edited by Dr. Trooth, 20 April 2013 - 07:15 AM.


#6 Ryan L Billz

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 07:25 AM

View PostNastyMan, on 19 April 2013 - 10:58 PM, said:

With a lot of mock drafts on NFL.com now day's have the Bills taking G. Smith QB, my question is would you be O.K. with the Bills taking him first and R. Nassib in the third round if he is there?  Kind of like the Redskins did last year to have a real QB competition this summer even though we have so many other needs to address.  Or would you rather us take C. Warmack in the first and a QB in the second and third since none of the QB's this year really deserve a first round pick and if we did pick one in the first round we would be reaching IMO.  Thoughts.....

If we snag Geno there is no need for a Nassib for sure.    Trooth's "wasted pick" comment in regards to Geno is ridiculous IMO.

Take the 3rd round talent Nassib blinders off..........There are real qb's in this draft.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:04 AM

View PostDr. Trooth, on 20 April 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

Geno Smith is not a consideration for the Bills in any round.  It would be a wasted pick.

Barkely has no track record at any level, either living in or playing in, cold, windy, snowy, sloppy weather. Also, the last two qbs that Lane Kiffen produced were Matt Leinart and John David Booty. His latest product "regressed" from his junior season to his senior season. Something to consider.

The last three California QBs the Bills started... Johnson, Losman, and Edwards went badly. Caveat emptor.

Glad it was you that made this post.  It's no surprise.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:05 AM

I wouldn't do that in back to back rounds. Especially when you look at it things from the angle that, we basically drafted our backup QB this year in trading away the pick for TJax.

I fore one would love to draft Barkley in the first and then in the 5th someone like Sorensen.

Moreover, I would like Buffalo to take Indy's approach to this year draft.

They took Luck followed by Fleener, Allen, Hilton, Ballard, a DT, then Brazill... They basically focused their entire drat around getting weapons for Luck.

If Buffalo does take a QB at #8, they need to follow suit and get as many weapons for the kid as possible. Do not Sam Bradford the kid and leave him on an island with subpar talent to try and work with.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:30 AM

Interesting idea.  Most would agree that QB is still a position of dire need.  Two shots on net may be the way to go.  Lets face it, anybody selected after round 2 is not likely to see major playing time and could even be in danger of not making the team.  What if someone like Bray is there in the 4th and the Bills had a decent grade on him?

Not a big gamble for the potential payoff.  



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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:47 AM

What happened to the talk of EJ Manuel. I just watched Barkley,Nasib and Manuel and Manuel looks exciting and has a huge arm. Nasib and Barkley look like Fitz with maybe a little better arms. I hope we draft Manuel at some point.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 09:01 AM

Smith will be a bust.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 09:04 AM

lol at Nassib in the 3rd round

if anything, you have your QBs switched.  Nassib in the 1st and Geno in the 3rd is actually the more likely scenario

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 09:16 AM

The Bills have too many needs to go QB 2 times early.  HOWEVER - if a guy like Landry Jones is sitting there in the 4th or 5th round, and the Bills have already addressed QB, WR, LB, and TE/G - don't be surprised if they trade up or just use their 5th rounder on Jones.  He really has a ton of potential, and a lot of good tape - that type of move would be well worth the risk; and the loss of talent in that round should be able to be addressed in UDFA or FA - I mean, if they were to pass on a G or another WR in the 5th round, in favor of Landry Jones, they should still be able to get a comparable prospect in RD 6 or UDFA, or FA.  So, it only happens if a good prospect falls far.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 09:32 AM

View PostOzymandius, on 20 April 2013 - 09:04 AM, said:

lol at Nassib in the 3rd round

if anything, you have your QBs switched.  Nassib in the 1st and Geno in the 3rd is actually the more likely scenario

You're smoking crack

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 09:38 AM

The closer we get the more I think they're taking Barkley at 8.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 09:47 AM

View PostRyan L Billz, on 20 April 2013 - 07:25 AM, said:

If we snag Geno there is no need for a Nassib for sure. Trooth's "wasted pick" comment in regards to Geno is ridiculous IMO.

Take the 3rd round talent Nassib blinders off..........There are real qb's in this draft.

Whatever.  Marrone's defense went 3-0 vs. Geno.   If Marrone has his number, so do a lot of coaches.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:06 AM

I find it fascinating that so many people think we're taking a QB at #8, but we have no idea which one.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 10:43 AM

to ozmandius and dr nassib..........heres a link to waltermockdraft............Geno off the board at #4   Nassib off the board at #33.....

this seems to be the trend in "expert mocks" FWIW.   We can all be friends after the draft as i will embrace Nassib if need be....... but personally i think he's a donk after watching senior bowl and other limited clips..........i see why some like him as he seems very decent in short to midrange game..........but IMO Barkley is sharper at that same aspect.

http://walterfootbal...draft2013_2.php


This has EJ Manuel to Buff at #8 (he is going to NY for draft FWIW, lil smoke and fire there).........#41 Robert Woods USC (deandre hopkins off board to packers at #26)

like another poster said.........EJ has much bigger arm than Barkley and Nassib FWIW.     I am fine with this outcome as well.

Edited by Ryan L Billz, 20 April 2013 - 10:48 AM.


#19 chris heff

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 11:55 AM

I'd be good with anyone of these guys, in order.

Nassib
Manuel
Barkley

I use to have Manuel first, but I was so impressed with Nassib on Gruden's QB Camp, I moved him to fist. Nassib is the biggest risk for Marrone. If Nassib fails Marrone should have known better.

I'm intrigued by Manuel. Isn't the guy with the greatest upside what you want?

If Barkley had come out a year ago most people would have been screaming for him.


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Posted 20 April 2013 - 02:41 PM

View Postchris heff, on 20 April 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:

I'd be good with anyone of these guys, in order.

Nassib
Manuel
Barkley

I use to have Manuel first, but I was so impressed with Nassib on Gruden's QB Camp, I moved him to fist. Nassib is the biggest risk for Marrone. If Nassib fails Marrone should have known better.

I'm intrigued by Manuel. Isn't the guy with the greatest upside what you want?

If Barkley had come out a year ago most people would have been screaming for him.

Totally agree with you about Nassib and the reverse is true, too. If the Bills don't take him and he becomes a superstar - Marrone should have known better.