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#1 BILLS 4 EVER

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 02:31 PM

...You never know WTF the Bills brass is thinking.  I remember watching and hearing the BILLS have TRADED UP and I thought YES!! YES!! We are going to take Russel Wilson. He won't last to the 4th where the Bills want him so we are getting him now!! Great move..... then......
silence.... and with their pick in the 3rd round the Buffalo Bills select... WR  T.J. Graham.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!  I had to look up stats and ranking for this no name unheard of speedster and saw him as the 34th ranked receiver.  Maybe the Bills know something, I tried to convince myself. Maybe they'll still get Wilson BUT NO! GOD NO! They did it again. And we all know how that played out.

Which is why something tells me they will do it THIS YEAR TOO!   Some head scratching boneheaded pick that Whitner's my ass into a Maybin frenzy.   I just don't trust them to get it right.

So the question is? What dumbs, head scratching, rip your eyeballs out move do you think they will pull this year or does Marrone have enough sense and insight and power to guide the ship off the damn iceberg for once?  

My guess. Buddy goes down with the ship guiding us to pick #8--- Matt Barkley, sunshine boy USC, RJ#2 can't slice it through the cold winds.

I really like EJ Manuel but don't know if he plays good in the cold.  Nassib seems like the only logical choice to fit what we do in the environment we do it in. But who follows logic at OBD.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 02:48 PM

TJ, as a rookie, caught 30 some passes. It's very very early into 2013 but from what's come out of the first mini camp, TJ was the best WR in camp. I don't think this was a wasted 3rd rounder, not as great as the Wilsom pick for sure, but certainly not wasted. Buddy's 2012 draft may turn out to really great.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 02:50 PM

Graham has only played one season, and it was with a QB that was incapable of playing to Graham's strengths. Lots of teams passed on R. Wilson.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 02:54 PM

The funny part was that TJ was a 5th round projection. We didn't need to trade up to get him in the 3rd. It was confusing and upsetting. That being said, I think a new QB will help unlock TJ's potential. Drops aside, he was great at getting downfield.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 03:02 PM

Around here, a draft prospect gets one year to become All Pro or his entire being gets trashed.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 03:11 PM

View Postvictorymedia, on 21 April 2013 - 02:31 PM, said:

...You never know


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Posted 21 April 2013 - 03:16 PM

View Postvictorymedia, on 21 April 2013 - 02:31 PM, said:

...You never know WTF the Bills brass is thinking.  I remember watching and hearing the BILLS have TRADED UP and I thought YES!! YES!! We are going to take Russel Wilson. He won't last to the 4th where the Bills want him so we are getting him now!! Great move..... then......
silence.... and with their pick in the 3rd round the Buffalo Bills select... WR  T.J. Graham.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!  I had to look up stats and ranking for this no name unheard of speedster and saw him as the 34th ranked receiver.  Maybe the Bills know something, I tried to convince myself. Maybe they'll still get Wilson BUT NO! GOD NO! They did it again. And we all know how that played out.
I remember thinking the same exact thing! Damn did I want me some Russell Wilson...

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 03:27 PM

View PostNeverOutNick, on 21 April 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

I remember thinking the same exact thing! Damn did I want me some Russell Wilson...

And if he ran the BILLS offense last year, it would have been another wasted pick!!!!

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 03:41 PM

Too early to tell on TJ.  I hope Buddy was right.  This year, it would be great to get a big posession WR in the later rounds or an athletic TE.  We need soemthing beyond a QB.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 03:59 PM

Tj played well at the mini camp.  He could be in his way to a nice career.  Not picking Wilson is another subject.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:03 PM

TJ Graham is gonna shut the mouths of a lot of armchair gms around here very soon.......book it

View PostBig C, on 21 April 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

The funny part was that TJ was a 5th round projection. We didn't need to trade up to get him in the 3rd. It was confusing and upsetting. That being said, I think a new QB will help unlock TJ's potential. Drops aside, he was great at getting downfield.
Yes because "projections" are exactly how drafts play out.......geesh

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:06 PM

If TJ knows what Bills fans have been writing about him on message boards, he'll have a TON of motivation to prove people wrong.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:09 PM

View Postvictorymedia, on 21 April 2013 - 02:31 PM, said:

...You never know WTF the Bills brass is thinking.  I remember watching and hearing the BILLS have TRADED UP and I thought YES!! YES!! We are going to take Russel Wilson. He won't last to the 4th where the Bills want him so we are getting him now!! Great move..... then......
silence.... and with their pick in the 3rd round the Buffalo Bills select... WR  T.J. Graham.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!  I had to look up stats and ranking for this no name unheard of speedster and saw him as the 34th ranked receiver.  Maybe the Bills know something, I tried to convince myself. Maybe they'll still get Wilson BUT NO! GOD NO! They did it again. And we all know how that played out.

Which is why something tells me they will do it THIS YEAR TOO!   Some head scratching boneheaded pick that Whitner's my ass into a Maybin frenzy.   I just don't trust them to get it right.

So the question is? What dumbs, head scratching, rip your eyeballs out move do you think they will pull this year or does Marrone have enough sense and insight and power to guide the ship off the damn iceberg for once?

My guess. Buddy goes down with the ship guiding us to pick #8--- Matt Barkley, sunshine boy USC, RJ#2 can't slice it through the cold winds.

I really like EJ Manuel but don't know if he plays good in the cold.  Nassib seems like the only logical choice to fit what we do in the environment we do it in. But who follows logic at OBD.



Current Ryan Nassib rankings…

GBN Report - 44
Mike Mayock - 50
Gil Brandt - 50
CBS Sports - 48

Yet it's logical for the Bills to spend the #8 overall pick on Ryan Nassib? That is the logical thing to do unlike the Bills reaching for TJ Graham last year?

What if Marrone doesn't even want Nassib and would rather develop a QB with a higher ceiling and with modern NFL era QB skills like Matt Scott instead? I don't think that Nassib fans are even remotely considering this possibility. Marrone may not even want Nassib. He's almost 50 years old and he won't hitch his head coaching career wagon to Nassib if thinks there's a good chance he's not a franchise QB.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:11 PM

Doesn't anyone think that Buffalo traded up to get Graham bc they knew (or at least thought) Jacksonville was about to pick him?

The Jags seemingly panicked and picked a punter. A punter! In the third round!

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:13 PM

View PostBig C, on 21 April 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

The funny part was that TJ was a 5th round projection. We didn't need to trade up to get him in the 3rd. It was confusing and upsetting. That being said, I think a new QB will help unlock TJ's potential. Drops aside, he was great at getting downfield.
He was great at getting downfield?  And you think that is a positive?  This really sets the bar low.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:15 PM

View Post1billsfan, on 21 April 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

Current Ryan Nassib rankings…

GBN Report - 44
Mike Mayock - 50
Gil Brandt - 50
CBS Sports - 48

Yet it's logical for the Bills to spend the #8 overall pick on Ryan Nassib? That is the logical thing to do unlike the Bills reaching for TJ Graham last year?

What if Marrone doesn't even want Nassib and would rather develop a QB with a higher ceiling and with modern NFL era QB skills like Matt Scott instead? I don't think that Nassib fans are even remotely considering this possibility. Marrone may not even want Nassib. He's almost 50 years old and he won't hitch his head coaching career wagon to Nassib if thinks there's a good chance he's not a franchise QB.


But as far as strictly QBs, he's ranked anywhere from #1 to #6

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:19 PM

My problem with the pick is far more Russel Wilson than TJ Graham.  Graham had an iffy rookie year with some promise.  Whatever.

There is not a single player on any Bills roster between 2000 and the present that I would rather have than Russel Wilson.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:35 PM

View Postartmalibu, on 21 April 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

And if he ran the BILLS offense last year, it would have been another wasted pick!!!!

You are damn spot on.  It's about "fit" for the team that is drafting him.  No one seems to get that.  There are QBs that have outrageously strong arms or incredible athletic ability.  And every time I see that brought up, I think of Jamarcus Russell, Vince Young, JP Losman, and Heath Schuler.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:44 PM

Thank god victorymedia is here to tell us why we should remember the 3rd round last year.

Because no one remembers it nor is it ever discussed.

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Posted 21 April 2013 - 04:55 PM

View Postsilvermike, on 21 April 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

My problem with the pick is far more Russel Wilson than TJ Graham.  Graham had an iffy rookie year with some promise.  Whatever.

There is not a single player on any Bills roster between 2000 and the present that I would rather have than Russel Wilson.

Get over it for Pete's sake.