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Kiper Draft grade . . . as if they matter.

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#1 Acantha

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 07:17 PM

I tried to search for this, but didn't see it. Bills get an overall C-, lowest of all 32 teams.

Insider article:

http://insider.espn....-nfl-team-draft

#2 OldTimer1960

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 07:25 PM

Means absolutely nothing.  FWIW, I like Kiper as he was the first of the "draft gurus" that I followed and I bought his book for many years.  I just don't think he (or even the NFL teams) know everything.   For instance, he certainly hasn't met with many of the players or talked with their college coaches to get the "deep scoop".  He does have asccess to many of their game tapes - and I believe that he does study those, but that does not necessarily mean that his evaluations are definitive.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 07:26 PM

Sweet!  I'm glad he doesn't like it.  The hell with the Hair's assesment... we'll see in a few years how this draft plays out.

#4 Chandler#81

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 07:29 PM

Well, yeah, but he can't spell. He had it @ B- but meant C-. For a guy supposedly all about data, well..

Consider the source.

#5 JR in Pittsburgh

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 07:30 PM

If he's grading the same way he did in the past, his grades are based on how close teams are to picking his picks at or around the values he placed on them.

The draft gurus--like Kiper--shouldn't be allowed to grade drafts. Their grades are just going to be a reflection of their mocks.

#6 Dorkington

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 07:30 PM

Not surprising.

Chances are, Kiper is correct, just because we have a poor history of drafts with this FO. BUT, Kiper is also a blowhard who is wrong way more often than he is right, so hopefully this ends up in the BS category. :D

#7 Mr. WEO

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 07:32 PM

Some guy on NFL.com said the best pick in round 1 was....Vaccaro!  A DB from......Texas!  

What a joke.

Anyway, prior to that pick, the Saints had picked defense every 1st round for 5 years, and their D still sort of blows.

#8 Punch

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 07:37 PM

He likes Alonso, but decries that Arthur Brown was still on the board at the time Alonso was picked. Kiper having Arthur Brown rated higher is one thing, but not taking into consideration that Brown likely doesn't fit Pettine's defense whereas Alonso appears to be engineered in a lab to fit it is why these grades mean little. It's interesting and it adds to the fun of the overall draft experience, but these guys don't really know which players are fits, so it borders on extreme chutzpah when they get all huffy on camera determining "winners" and "losers".

#9 Reed83HOF

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 07:42 PM

Alex Marvez gave us an A-

#10 jr1

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 07:44 PM

This is your brain on Aqua Net, any questions?

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:02 PM

They made Kiper look bad by taking Manuel higher than he projected. He under estimated how in demand Manuel was and it made him look bad. These grades have nothing to do with how good or bad the players are but rather just how well teams drafted according to Kipers board. But Kipers board is only one mans projections which based off how high he had a lot of players who fell a lot farther than he thought means he is prone to mistakes.

That being said I like Kiper but he has to be taken with a grain of salt. McShay I just hate I don't consider his opinion to be worth anything.

Edited by billsfan89, 28 April 2013 - 08:04 PM.


#12 Helpmenow

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:11 PM

Who gives a flying **** about draft grades!

#13 Johnny Hammersticks

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:17 PM

Mel Kiper is the least credible of all the NFL draft "talking heads" IMO.  Besides, these draft grades are basically meaningless to me.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:22 PM

I guess they have to grade the draft.  He's subject to audit, so if his mocks were one way and the Bills chose the opposite, he owes it to himself to grade accordingly.  Otherwise, he'd be a total hypocrite as opposed to a partial one.

#15 Joe_the_6_pack

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:26 PM

He lost a lot of credibility - especially analysing that position - when he chatted up klausen a few years ago. When he fell to rd2 Mel was speechless. Now that he rides the pine behind newton Mel is like "jimmy who?" At least mcshay for all his faults, correctly called the ascension of tannehill up the board last year.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:28 PM

Mel "Cordy Glenn is a guard" Kiper doesn't like our draft? Ouch. What now? If only we would have drafted Jimmy Clausen like he said we wouldn't have had to reach for a QB....oh wait....

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:32 PM

And if the Bills had taken Nassib or Barkley at 8 without trading down and acquiring extra picks the grade would have been a B probably.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:39 PM

Fraud Kiper relinked:

http://forums.twobil...ne/page__st__20

The fact that you have to pay for the privledge of his opinion should tell us what he's all about.

#19 voodoo poonani

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:42 PM

View PostFaustus, on 28 April 2013 - 07:17 PM, said:

I tried to search for this, but didn't see it. Bills get an overall C-, lowest of all 32 teams.

Insider article:

http://insider.espn....-nfl-team-draft

Sweet, we must have done well then.  If the hair really knew anything, he'd be elsewhere.

#20 BobDVA

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 09:06 PM

Who the hell is Mel Kiper?





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