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#1 hondo in seattle

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 12:55 AM

From Mark Gaughan...

Whaley wasted no time putting his own stamp on the organization.

The Bills announced the hiring of Jim Monos as director of player personnel and Kelvin Fisher as director of college scouting.

Monos spent the past eight years serving a key role as Southeast college scout for the New Orleans Saints. He becomes Whaley’s right-hand man, overseeing pro and college scouting.

Fisher, who spent the past 13 years as a college scout with the Steelers, becomes the Bills’ new director of college scouting. Chuck Cook, who held that title with the Bills the past two years, gets demoted to the role of national college scout.

Whaley was quick to make some changes to the scouting hierarchy.  Anybody know anything about these guys beyond the above?

EDIT:  I just found a good article from Jay Skurski answering my question.  Here are a couple excerpts...

Monos steps into the role that Whaley previously held, overseeing both the pro personnel and college scouting departments.  “I’ve known him for a while. He’s an incredible talent evaluator and he will be important for us on the road, seeing the top talent,” Whaley said of Monos, who comes to the Bills after spending the past eight seasons as a scout with the New Orleans Saints....

Fisher has spent the last 13 years with the Pittsburgh Steelers as a college scout. Fisher started with the Steelers in 2000, a year after Whaley.  “I’ve been with him for a long time so he knows the process that I’m going to implement,” Whaley said.

http://www.buffalone...PORTS/130519255

Edited by hondo in seattle, 17 May 2013 - 01:01 AM.


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 01:28 AM

Monos had a hand in the Saints drafting Jahri Evans in the 4th round of the 2006 NFL Draft.  I read an article that Monos "urged" the Saints to take Evans.  Score one in the win column for that pick.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 02:54 AM

View PostEstro, on 17 May 2013 - 01:28 AM, said:

Monos had a hand in the Saints drafting Jahri Evans in the 4th round of the 2006 NFL Draft.  I read an article that Monos "urged" the Saints to take Evans.  Score one in the win column for that pick.


Additionally, the Bills promoted C.J. Leak from BLESTO scout, a job he’s held the past two years, to a college area scout. Pete Harris, who worked as a scouting assistant the past two seasons, was promoted to BLESTO scout.
http://www.buffalone.../130519255/1003

The Bills added C.J. Leak as a team-exclusive scout. Some of you may remember C.J. and his brother, Chris, who was once a national-championship winning QB at Florida.

Edited by ny33, 17 May 2013 - 02:56 AM.


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 06:43 AM

View PostEstro, on 17 May 2013 - 01:28 AM, said:

Monos had a hand in the Saints drafting Jahri Evans in the 4th round of the 2006 NFL Draft.  I read an article that Monos "urged" the Saints to take Evans.  Score one in the win column for that pick.

Saints have been great in late rounds, mediocre at the top.... So.... There's that, whatever it means.


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:03 AM

best thing is they as players were a FB and an OL

those people are used to working hard and working together. and they do not care at all who gets the credit as long as the job gets done

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:11 AM

Doomed?

#7 hondo in seattle

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:19 AM

I think the changes show Nix wasn't just a figurehead as some had speculated.

I thought Whaley's comment about Fisher was interesting, "...he knows the process that I'm going to implement."  It sounds like Whaley's going to make the Bills scouting department run like the Steeler's scouting department.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:29 AM

I like that Whatley made these changes day 1, he knows what he wants to do, and he went and got the guys it takes to run it.  Also, despite the non political correctness of getting folks you used to work with, it immediately puts the lines of communication in place with understanding at both ends.  And, to be a great GM, Whately doesn't need to know it all, he just has to have people who do, and use them well.  Good start!

View Posthondo in seattle, on 17 May 2013 - 08:19 AM, said:

I think the changes show Nix wasn't just a figurehead as some had speculated.

I thought Whaley's comment about Fisher was interesting, "...he knows the process that I'm going to implement."  It sounds like Whaley's going to make the Bills scouting department run like the Steeler's scouting department.
No need to reinvent a process if you can copy one that works well.  Good for him, a good idea whereever it comes from!

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:09 AM

I guess this means he's keeping Tom Gibbons as pro personnel director?

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:27 AM

View PostSan Jose Bills Fan, on 17 May 2013 - 11:09 AM, said:

I guess this means he's keeping Tom Gibbons as pro personnel director?

Is that you, Tom?

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:33 AM

I like these changes. If you like at the consistently good franchises around the league you draft well and then keep your guys.
I point to the Giants and Steelers as being the two who have been relevant through out the past 25+ years. It is about a sytem, the system is passed down . Steelers been doing it since the 70's. Good for Whaley he is a very young guy, if succesful he should be able to make the Bills a winning franchise for years!

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:44 AM

View PostKeisterHollow, on 17 May 2013 - 11:27 AM, said:

Is that you, Tom?

Yes.

I mean, no.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:49 AM

View PostNoSaint, on 17 May 2013 - 06:43 AM, said:

Saints have been great in late rounds, mediocre at the top.... So.... There's that, whatever it means.

They have taken a defensive player as their first pick in now 6 straight drafts.  How's their defense?

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:56 AM

View PostMr. WEO, on 17 May 2013 - 11:49 AM, said:



They have taken a defensive player as their first pick in now 6 straight drafts.  How's their defense?

Worse than ours!

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 12:11 PM

View PostbigK14094, on 17 May 2013 - 08:29 AM, said:

I like that Whatley made these changes day 1, he knows what he wants to do, and he went and got the guys it takes to run it.  Also, despite the non political correctness of getting folks you used to work with, it immediately puts the lines of communication in place with understanding at both ends.  And, to be a great GM, Whately doesn't need to know it all, he just has to have people who do, and use them well.  Good start!

No need to reinvent a process if you can copy one that works well.  Good for him, a good idea whereever it comes from!

Agreed. Love the changes.  Feels like a breath of Fresh air at OBD for once!

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 12:28 PM

View PostNoSaint, on 17 May 2013 - 11:56 AM, said:

Worse than ours!
Exactly....

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 12:40 PM

View PostMr. WEO, on 17 May 2013 - 12:28 PM, said:


Exactly....

Cam Jordan looks good. Sed Ellis was junk, the corners have been meh, Jenkins would be good if he'd hold on when he got his hands on the ball.... When we got shepherd they took Tez at LB who has been even more underwhelming. Roman Harper is good in the box but an awful safety when asked to make plays that aren't in the offensive backfield.

We will see. Spags is also a 43 pressure with your front 4 kind of coach.... So we saw how that works when the line underachieves. Lots of parallels with the units last year.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 12:52 PM

View Posthondo in seattle, on 17 May 2013 - 12:55 AM, said:

From Mark Gaughan...

Whaley wasted no time putting his own stamp on the organization.

The Bills announced the hiring of Jim Monos as director of player personnel and Kelvin Fisher as director of college scouting.

Monos spent the past eight years serving a key role as Southeast college scout for the New Orleans Saints. He becomes Whaley’s right-hand man, overseeing pro and college scouting.

Fisher, who spent the past 13 years as a college scout with the Steelers, becomes the Bills’ new director of college scouting. Chuck Cook, who held that title with the Bills the past two years, gets demoted to the role of national college scout.

Whaley was quick to make some changes to the scouting hierarchy.  Anybody know anything about these guys beyond the above?

EDIT:  I just found a good article from Jay Skurski answering my question.  Here are a couple excerpts...

Monos steps into the role that Whaley previously held, overseeing both the pro personnel and college scouting departments.  “I’ve known him for a while. He’s an incredible talent evaluator and he will be important for us on the road, seeing the top talent,” Whaley said of Monos, who comes to the Bills after spending the past eight seasons as a scout with the New Orleans Saints....

Fisher has spent the last 13 years with the Pittsburgh Steelers as a college scout. Fisher started with the Steelers in 2000, a year after Whaley.  “I’ve been with him for a long time so he knows the process that I’m going to implement,” Whaley said.

http://www.buffalone...PORTS/130519255
Hondo, thanks for posting.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 01:01 PM

I know nothing about either of these guys. I feel like I should make statements about they guarantee success/failure of the Bills organization.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 01:32 PM

View Postjeremy2020, on 17 May 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

I know nothing about either of these guys. I feel like I should make statements about they guarantee success/failure of the Bills organization.

Well put