Jump to content


Warren sapp slams J Byrd on NFLN


  • Please log in to reply
127 replies to this topic

#1 taglientep

taglientep

    Practice Squad

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 190 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:06 AM

Dont know if you guys saw this, but really Warren.  The guy argues numbers but then wont support them when its a bill..

http://www.nfl.com/v...ve-for-safeties

shouldnt he be sucking up to JB for when he signs for all this money so he can be pulled up from bankruptcy?

#2 ShipUPride

ShipUPride

    Practice Squad

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 147 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:19 AM

Byrd is average at best.  Is he a ball hawk?  Yes.  But that's all he does.

#3 Stl Bills

Stl Bills

    I could go for a Blumpkin.......

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,478 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:20 AM

Warren Sapp is a piece of garbage.

#4 AlwaysBilleve

AlwaysBilleve

    Rookie

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 478 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:20 AM

I've always liked Warren but these comments are unwarranted with no substance. If he were to give reasons, or at least one, then maybe he could try and argue this. Other than that, this video seems to be a washed up, broke  man's rant simply because Byrd plays for the Bills.

#5 B-Man

B-Man

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,986 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:23 AM

View PostShipUPride, on 24 May 2013 - 07:19 AM, said:

Byrd is average at best.  Is he a ball hawk?  Yes.  But that's all he does.

Byrd is above average.

but does he deserve the top money in the NFL at that position ? ........................................... no


The trouble is Eugene Parker probably won't even settle for that.


.

#6 Kkspike

Kkspike

    Rookie

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 366 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:27 AM

Warrens contract is up in August.

#7 Homey D. Clown

Homey D. Clown

    Circle the Wagons Jim!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,401 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:27 AM

I find it really hard to take anyone with an 8th grade level of reading and comprehension seriously.  How on earth this man is still employed as an analyst is a mystery.

Edited by Homey D. Clown, 24 May 2013 - 07:27 AM.


#8 ganesh

ganesh

    You can do things on a football field that are severely illegal

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,796 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:35 AM

View PostHomey D. Clown, on 24 May 2013 - 07:27 AM, said:

I find it really hard to take anyone with an 8th grade level of reading and comprehension seriously.  How on earth this man is still employed as an analyst is a mystery.

When you have to fill up speaking-seats on NFLN, ESPNxxx channels, what quality do you expect.

View PostB-Man, on 24 May 2013 - 07:23 AM, said:

Byrd is above average.

but does he deserve the top money in the NFL at that position ? ........................................... no


The trouble is Eugene Parker probably won't even settle for that.


.

Byrd has also been on ****ty teams that cannot stop the run.  May be if he plays on a team like the Steelers or Ravens, he can prove that he is as good or better than Polamalu or Ed Reed, both of whom benefit from a fantastic front seven.

#9 RuntheDamnBall

RuntheDamnBall

    Go Bills

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,249 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:45 AM

The NFL Network seems to be an object lesson in the fact that formerly great players are not necessarily smart people or good human beings.  Sapp offered zero to explain why he doesn't think Byrd is elite.

#10 Chandler#81

Chandler#81

    Veteran

  • Global Moderators
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,085 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:50 AM

View Postganesh, on 24 May 2013 - 07:35 AM, said:



When you have to fill up speaking-seats on NFLN, ESPNxxx channels, what quality do you expect.

Byrd has also been on ****ty teams that cannot stop the run.  May be if he plays on a team like the Steelers or Ravens, he can prove that he is as good or better than Polamalu or Ed Reed, both of whom benefit from a fantastic front seven.

Well, I USED to think Byrd was great, but then ShipUpride told us all differently. So now I'm not so sure... o0

#11 Helpmenow

Helpmenow

    Geologist

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,352 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:57 AM

Half the time i can't understand him

#12 Homey D. Clown

Homey D. Clown

    Circle the Wagons Jim!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,401 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:57 AM

View Postganesh, on 24 May 2013 - 07:35 AM, said:

When you have to fill up speaking-seats on NFLN, ESPNxxx channels, what quality do you expect.

So true... it's sad how many crappy ex-players litter sports channels...


On an aside, I loved Shannon sharp as a player, he was awesome to watch, but when I hear his analysis, all I can think of now is "Simple Jack"

Edited by Homey D. Clown, 24 May 2013 - 07:59 AM.


#13 Wooderson

Wooderson

    Alright, alright, alright

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,088 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:59 AM

View PostShipUPride, on 24 May 2013 - 07:19 AM, said:

Byrd is average at best.  Is he a ball hawk?  Yes.  But that's all he does.

https://www.profootb...-buffalo-bills/

Quote

Undervalued

1. Jairus Byrd, Safety


In 2011 Byrd did enough to convince us big things were in store for his future. Well, 2012 was an even bigger step forward where he put forth a season that should have earned him All-Pro honors. He finished second in our safety rankings with the highest grade of all his peers in coverage. That’s what happens when you’re targeted 21 times and manage to pick off five balls and not allow a single touchdown.


2012 Cap Hit: $1.1m
2012 Performance Based Value: $8.8m


Value Differential:

+$7.8m


#14 papazoid

papazoid

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,077 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 08:11 AM

Jairus Byrd is way above an average safety.  is he top 5 ? NO......is he top 10 ? maybe....is he top 15 ?  for sure.

is he worth $9 mil/year ?  NO
is he worth $8 mil/year ? maybe
is he worth $7 mil/year ?  YES


if i'm the bills, i'm playing hardball. he plays under his franchise tag this year or signs for $7-8 mil.  otherwise I franchise tag him again next year.

#15 BuffaloBaumer

BuffaloBaumer

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,798 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 08:19 AM

View Postpapazoid, on 24 May 2013 - 08:11 AM, said:

Jairus Byrd is way above an average safety.  is he top 5 ? NO......is he top 10 ? maybe....is he top 15 ?  for sure.

is he worth $9 mil/year ?  NO
is he worth $8 mil/year ? maybe
is he worth $7 mil/year ?  YES


if i'm the bills, i'm playing hardball. he plays under his franchise tag this year or signs for $7-8 mil.  otherwise I franchise tag him again next year.

I agree with this. Maybe I am missing something but the only time I really notice Byrd is when he gets the pick. Ints are nice but when I think of an elite safety, I think of a player that is just all OVER the field all the time, every game. He is nowhere near someone like Ed Reed or some of the other top safeties.

#16 nucci

nucci

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,812 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 08:20 AM

View PostShipUPride, on 24 May 2013 - 07:19 AM, said:

Byrd is average at best.  Is he a ball hawk?  Yes.  But that's all he does.
One of the best tacklers on defense, also

#17 Lurker

Lurker

    16 pages is NOT enough

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,944 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 08:24 AM

View PostChandler#81, on 24 May 2013 - 07:50 AM, said:

Well, I USED to think Byrd was great, but then ShipUpride told us all differently. So now I'm not so sure... o0

:thumbsup:

#18 Mr. WEO

Mr. WEO

    All Pro

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,574 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 08:31 AM

View Postganesh, on 24 May 2013 - 07:35 AM, said:

When you have to fill up speaking-seats on NFLN, ESPNxxx channels, what quality do you expect.



Byrd has also been on ****ty teams that cannot stop the run.  May be if he plays on a team like the Steelers or Ravens, he can prove that he is as good or better than Polamalu or Ed Reed, both of whom benefit from a fantastic front seven.

Byrd's style of play is nothing like Polamalu's, and that has nothing to do with the front 7.

#19 bonechiller

bonechiller

    Practice Squad

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 223 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 08:42 AM

Just another ex player trashing a team he is too lazy to pay attention to.
Buffalo is not winning so, all players suck! In his opinion.
If Manual works out and this team is half as good as some of our optimism suggests, They will be all over the Bills.
Basically like Bandwagon fans. If they are not winning, they all must stink.

#20 jboyst62

jboyst62

    Hall of Farmer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 16,907 posts

Posted 24 May 2013 - 08:47 AM

Warren is the old school d-bag.  He is going to hype the old players, that's it.  He is annoying and just comes off like a giant tool.  Doesn't even come off as a likeable nice guy, just a punk.

And judging a safety, I would listen to Rhonde before I would Warren.

Edited by jboyst62, 24 May 2013 - 08:48 AM.