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#1 Estelle Getty

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 04:25 AM

This is not a Ralph Wilson should go away post.  I have not heard anyone go into depth about what this upcoming season could bring if Ralph Wilson passes during the season.

Let's say hypothetically the Bills finish 4-12, as many experts expect us to do.  E.J. Manuels rookie season looks more like Blaine Gabberts than RG3s, which is fairly likely if history is any indicator for this team.  Doug Marrone does a decent but not great job in his first year (also likely).  And Ralph Wilson passes during the season.  What would happen?

Although there are a lot of hypothiticals there is a good chance all of this may happen.

My thoughts would be the Wilson family would sell the team to the highest bidder and the new owners would likely want to start from scratch (Brandon included) with a team that missed the playoffs for a 14th straight year and a QB and coach that did not show any great potential in this league.  My guess is we might be talking about drafting Manziel with 1 of the top 3 picks in next years draft.

I hope this is not the way the season plays out but then again it might all be for the best.  So assuming Manuel, Marone, and the Bills struggle which is fairly likely and Wilson passes what do you think happens to the Buffalo Bills next offseason?

#2 Hsp08

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 04:42 AM

First off, didn't they sign a long term lease agreement?

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 04:47 AM

I don't know what you do for a living, but try selling life insurance.

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 05:00 AM

View PostEstelle Getty, on 17 June 2013 - 04:25 AM, said:

This is not a Ralph Wilson should go away post.  I have not heard anyone go into depth about what this upcoming season could bring if Ralph Wilson passes during the season.

Let's say hypothetically the Bills finish 4-12, as many experts expect us to do.  E.J. Manuels rookie season looks more like Blaine Gabberts than RG3s, which is fairly likely if history is any indicator for this team.  Doug Marrone does a decent but not great job in his first year (also likely).  And Ralph Wilson passes during the season.  What would happen?

Although there are a lot of hypothiticals there is a good chance all of this may happen.

My thoughts would be the Wilson family would sell the team to the highest bidder and the new owners would likely want to start from scratch (Brandon included) with a team that missed the playoffs for a 14th straight year and a QB and coach that did not show any great potential in this league.  My guess is we might be talking about drafting Manziel with 1 of the top 3 picks in next years draft.

I hope this is not the way the season plays out but then again it might all be for the best.  So assuming Manuel, Marone, and the Bills struggle which is fairly likely and Wilson passes what do you think happens to the Buffalo Bills next offseason?
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Posted 17 June 2013 - 05:37 AM

happy Monday morning  :cry:

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 05:41 AM

View PostEstelle Getty, on 17 June 2013 - 04:25 AM, said:

This is not a Ralph Wilson should go away post.  I have not heard anyone go into depth about what this upcoming season could bring if Ralph Wilson passes during the season.

Let's say hypothetically the Bills finish 4-12, as many experts expect us to do.  E.J. Manuels rookie season looks more like Blaine Gabberts than RG3s, which is fairly likely if history is any indicator for this team.  Doug Marrone does a decent but not great job in his first year (also likely).  And Ralph Wilson passes during the season.  What would happen?

Although there are a lot of hypothiticals there is a good chance all of this may happen.

My thoughts would be the Wilson family would sell the team to the highest bidder and the new owners would likely want to start from scratch (Brandon included) with a team that missed the playoffs for a 14th straight year and a QB and coach that did not show any great potential in this league.  My guess is we might be talking about drafting Manziel with 1 of the top 3 picks in next years draft.

I hope this is not the way the season plays out but then again it might all be for the best.  So assuming Manuel, Marone, and the Bills struggle which is fairly likely and Wilson passes what do you think happens to the Buffalo Bills next offseason?
The sky is falling.  The sky is falling.

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 05:47 AM

I WANT MY MAYPO!

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 06:31 AM

When does camp start?????

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 06:52 AM

The sky is falling!

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 06:56 AM

View Postjudman, on 17 June 2013 - 04:47 AM, said:

I don't know what you do for a living, but try selling life insurance.

But what if Ralph passes in the middle of selling a policy?

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 06:58 AM

View PostEstelle Getty, on 17 June 2013 - 04:25 AM, said:

This is not a Ralph Wilson should go away post.  I have not heard anyone go into depth about what this upcoming season could bring if Ralph Wilson passes during the season.

Let's say hypothetically the Bills finish 4-12, as many experts expect us to do.  E.J. Manuels rookie season looks more like Blaine Gabberts than RG3s, which is fairly likely if history is any indicator for this team.  Doug Marrone does a decent but not great job in his first year (also likely).  And Ralph Wilson passes during the season.  What would happen?

Although there are a lot of hypothiticals there is a good chance all of this may happen.

My thoughts would be the Wilson family would sell the team to the highest bidder and the new owners would likely want to start from scratch (Brandon included) with a team that missed the playoffs for a 14th straight year and a QB and coach that did not show any great potential in this league.  My guess is we might be talking about drafting Manziel with 1 of the top 3 picks in next years draft.

I hope this is not the way the season plays out but then again it might all be for the best.  So assuming Manuel, Marone, and the Bills struggle which is fairly likely and Wilson passes what do you think happens to the Buffalo Bills next offseason?
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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:08 AM

View PostEstelle Getty, on 17 June 2013 - 04:25 AM, said:

...what do you think happens to the Buffalo Bills next offseason?

Not sure what happens to the Buffalo Bills but like everyone else who has responded, I'm just going to stick my head in the sand and pretend that everything at OBD is just fine.

#13 papazoid

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:15 AM

LONG   TERM:
#1- with Toronto, the Bills are the 4th LARGEST nfl market. that is a very desirable size market. bills unlikely to relocate anywhere, plus it helps that the L.A. situation is messed up.
#2- they recently signed a 7 year lease with a $400 million poison pill buyout. while not iron clad, it is a sizable deterrent for relocation.  other franchises are more likely to move before buffalo (i.e. jax, san diego, raiders).
#3- when ralph passes, of course they sell to the highest bidder and russ is likely out.

SHORT  TERM:
#1- doug whaley probably stays in any scenario of ownership change and/or a very high draft pick.
#2- I doubt they take a QB with the #1 pick in 2014, even if a top 3 pick. besides, the bills will be picking 7th.

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:43 AM

This is going to come across as terrible but I will try to explain. If Ralph died in the next year it is more likely that the team will remain in WNY than if he passes in say 5 years. The way that the lease agreement is structured the real chance to "opt-out" comes after year 7. No one is going to buy the team and wait 6 years to relocate and no one is going to pay that penalty to opt-out before year 7. The people that would purchase in the next couple of years would certainly do so with the intent to remain in WNY.

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:44 AM

A decade from now, likely will not need a two bills drive website.  Unfortunately.  Buffalo market to small to play in the big money NFL long term.  I don't like it, but I am prepared for it.  Just check the demographics in this country, lots of bigger venues to move to....with better weather as well, meaning potential sell outs in November and December, something not seen here since the playoff days of Jim Kelly.

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:50 AM

Has it been about 2 months since the last "If Ralph dies what happens to the Bills?" Post?

Like Pap said, with the Toronto market and the 7-10 year contract in place, we will be fine.

I'm surprised the OP Didnt include that Jim Kelly now recovering from cancer won't be in the right place to buy the team.

Get over it bridge jumpers, the Bills aren't going anywhere.

View PostbigK14094, on 17 June 2013 - 07:44 AM, said:

A decade from now, likely will not need a two bills drive website.  Unfortunately.  Buffalo market to small to play in the big money NFL long term.  I don't like it, but I am prepared for it.  Just check the demographics in this country, lots of bigger venues to move to....with better weather as well, meaning potential sell outs in November and December, something not seen here since the playoff days of Jim Kelly.
there we go, that's better. I knew at least one more bridge jumper would get in line. The world is ending, the world is ending.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:55 AM

If Ralph died it would take two to three years before the team would be sold. It would likely operate as is for that timeframe or relatively close.

That 7 year lease would be closer to coming into play, but the current team and coach would most likely not be in jeopardy immediately.

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:56 AM

View PostbigK14094, on 17 June 2013 - 07:44 AM, said:

A decade from now, likely will not need a two bills drive website.  Unfortunately.  Buffalo market to small to play in the big money NFL long term.  I don't like it, but I am prepared for it.  Just check the demographics in this country, lots of bigger venues to move to....with better weather as well, meaning potential sell outs in November and December, something not seen here since the playoff days of Jim Kelly.
Buffalo has been in the AFL/NFL since 1960. That's pretty long term to me and the TV contracts have not suffered because of Buffalo. I don't think the networks go to the NFL and offer less money because Buffalo is a small market. Not a good argument.

#19 San Jose Bills Fan

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 08:08 AM

Git' er done?

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 08:11 AM

View PostSan Jose Bills Fan, on 17 June 2013 - 08:08 AM, said:

Git' er done?
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