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#1 Golden Wheels

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:40 PM

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In the new issue of Rolling Stone, a story on Aaron Hernandez alleges the former Patriots tight end was a heavy user of angel dust and had become so paranoid as a result he carried a gun wherever he went. In addition, he cut himself off from friends and teammates, and had angered Bill Belichick so much with his actions — which included missed practices — that he was one misstep away from being released.
The story also alleges his former college coach Urban Meyer may have helped cover up failed drug tests, along with two violent incidents, including an assault and a drive-by shootout outside a local bar.

http://itiswhatitis....from-being-cut/

Interesting how this is coming out right after the NFLPA said they would sue the Patriots on behalf of Hernandez for his off-season workout bonus. Just a coincidence I'm sure.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:44 PM

View PostGolden Wheels, on 27 August 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:



http://itiswhatitis....from-being-cut/

Interesting how this is coming out right after the NFLPA said they would sue the Patriots on behalf of Hernandez for his off-season workout bonus. Just a coincidence I'm sure.

Well, a monthly with an article that's several months in the making only has so wide a window. Rolling stone clearly was after regular season kickoff not nflpa going after a bonus.

That said, damning content if accurate and will blow up the "he was troubled but we thought he was genuinely getting serious about getting away from trouble" narrative.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:46 PM

Yeah it makes Kraft look like a rube for saying he had no idea Hernandez was a problem -- or just good at PR spin.

Edited by Golden Wheels, 27 August 2013 - 06:47 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:55 PM

View PostGolden Wheels, on 27 August 2013 - 06:46 PM, said:

Yeah it makes Kraft look like a rube for saying he had no idea Hernandez was a problem -- or just good at PR spin.

If JW cared to chime in I'd be curious to hear what he thinks about a story like this coming out. With it turning away from isolated bursts of violence and towards chronic issues I'm wondering about how little was known before. If he was always carrying a gun, on hard drugs, missing practice, and on his last strike.... How did we not hear about it? Are the patriots a unique vault with information? Are personal lives a bit outside the realm of where nfl writers travel unless there's an arrest? General questions around those dynamics are obviously bouncing around my head.


Very curious to see a full article with sourcing and details when available

Edited by NoSaint, 27 August 2013 - 06:56 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:11 PM

View PostGolden Wheels, on 27 August 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:

http://itiswhatitis....from-being-cut/

Interesting how this is coming out right after the NFLPA said they would sue the Patriots on behalf of Hernandez for his off-season workout bonus. Just a coincidence I'm sure.
The union has to fight for that bonus. I have a feeling they wont fight hard though

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:12 PM

View PostNoSaint, on 27 August 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:



Well, a monthly with an article that's several months in the making only has so wide a window. Rolling stone clearly was after regular season kickoff not nflpa going after a bonus.

That said, damning content if accurate and will blow up the "he was troubled but we thought he was genuinely getting serious about getting away from trouble" narrative.

And since when is Rolling Stone Magazine doing the bidding of corporations like the NFL?

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:16 PM

So the NFL only tests for steroids then, eh?  How interesting.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:22 PM

So this all happened after Hernandez got his big extension.  Sure.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:23 PM

View PostBuffaloBob, on 27 August 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:



And since when is Rolling Stone Magazine doing the bidding of corporations like the NFL?

Likely why you are seeing it in rolling stone and not espn.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:24 PM

"had angered Bill Belichick so much with his actions — which included missed practices — that he was one misstep away from being released."

Well, go big or go home?  That was some misstep!  

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:26 PM

Angel dust? What is this--1986?

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:28 PM

View PostDoc, on 27 August 2013 - 07:22 PM, said:

So this all happened after Hernandez got his big extension.  Sure.

We will see - very curious about the article. If the pats are to be trusted (I know, I know) he had atleast 1 year clean in the nfl. Assuming the 2012 shooting was him that could've been a symptom of these issues or something that helped create the paranoia and reclusiveness

View PostHurlyBurly51, on 27 August 2013 - 07:24 PM, said:

"had angered Bill Belichick so much with his actions which included missed practices that he was one misstep away from being released."

Well, go big or go home?  That was some misstep!  

Yea that line read a bit off to me journalistically - what kind of misstep would've had him cut? I find it hard to believe that short of essentially what happened that he wouldn't have been a patriot right now.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:30 PM

View PostBuffaloBob, on 27 August 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

And since when is Rolling Stone Magazine doing the bidding of corporations like the NFL?
Rolling stone has changed dramatically over the past few years. For many reasons the main one being$$$$$.

They have little to say about music anymore since other than indy bands, "rock is dead".  Or they opine about the great dinosaur bands. Rap sells to a very limited market
same with Miley, Britney, etc. So they now write on everything with generally poor results.

The quote in the OP's post is actually old news since Hernandez arrest. I can't recall where I read it. But, it's been awhile especially the hidden failed drug tests, and the pats* being pissed off. The angel dust is all that's new.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:33 PM

View PostBest Player Available, on 27 August 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

Rolling stone has changed dramatically over the past few years. For many reasons the main one being$$$$$.

They have little to say about music anymore since other than indy bands, "rock is dead".  Or they opine about the great dinosaur bands. Rap sells to a very limited market
same with Miley, Britney, etc. So they now write on everything with generally poor results.

The quote in the OP's post is actually old news since Hernandez arrest. I can't recall where I read it. But, it's been awhile especially the hidden failed drug tests, and the pats* being pissed off. The angel dust is all that's new.

Well, I can see that they still want to sell magazines.  But I think it's quite another thing entirely to assume they are doing bidding for the NFL to support their plan to save a few million dollars on a player bonus for Robert Kraft, no?

Edited by BuffaloBob, 27 August 2013 - 07:35 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:34 PM

View PostJR in Pittsburgh, on 27 August 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

Angel dust? What is this--1986?

Ha ha, that's exactly what I thought when I read this. Seriously, who gets "dusted" in this day and age? Did he have a quaalude habit, too?

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:38 PM

View PostBuffaloBob, on 27 August 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

Well, I can see that they still want to sell magazines.  But I think it's quite another thing entirely to assume they are doing bidding for the NFL to support their plan to save a few million dollars on a player bonus for Robert Kraft, no?
I don't know where that's implied. It wasn't in my post.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:39 PM

Kraft and Hoodie both said they knew nothing, right?

Perhaps the organization should be sued for criminal negligence.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:40 PM

View PostJR in Pittsburgh, on 27 August 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

Angel dust? What is this--1986?
How did that line from Trading Places go with Dan Akroyd?  "Angel dust, heroine, pcp"?

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:42 PM

View PostBest Player Available, on 27 August 2013 - 07:38 PM, said:

I don't know where that's implied. It wasn't in my post.

I believe it was implied by the OP when referring to the timing of the release to coincide with their fight with the union, and that was what prompted my response, "Since when does Rolling Stone Magazine do the bidding of corporations like the NFL.  Then you responded to me by telling me how the Mag was different now, and more about the money.  That is why I said, well trying to sell mags was one thing, but doing the bidding of the NFL was quite another.

Edited by BuffaloBob, 27 August 2013 - 07:43 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:46 PM

View PostBuffaloBob, on 27 August 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

I believe it was implied by the OP when referring to the timing of the release to coincide with their fight with the union, and that was what prompted my response, "Since when does Rolling Stone Magazine do the bidding of corporations like the NFL.  Then you responded to me by telling me how the Mag was different now, and more about the money.  That is why I said, well trying to sell mags was one thing, but doing the bidding of the NFL was quite another.
Got it!