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EJ vs. Russell Wilson's First 3 NFL Starts

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#1 C.Biscuit97

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 08:06 AM

Let me start off by saying this doesn't mean Manuel will ever be as good as Wilson, but let's settle down a bit.

Wilson:  http://sports.yahoo..../?season=2012_2
43 of 75 (57.3%), 434 yards (144.7 yards/ game), 5.79 ypa, 4 tds to 1 INT, 1 fumble lost, Seattle averages 19 points/ game.

Also in his 4th start, Wilson threw 0 tds and 3 ints.

Manuel:  http://sports.yahoo..../players/26639/
64 of 108 (59.3%), 689 yards (229.7 yards/ game), 6.4 ypa, 4 tds to
1 ints, 1 fumble lost.  21.7 points


1)  Both had 4td to 1 int ratio.  IMO, this is one of the most important stats for a QB.  You can win a lot of games with that ratio.

2)  Seattle might have the best defense in the NFL.  They carried that team while Wilson learned on the job.  With their injuries, the Bills have struggled on D.  Manuel has been asked to do much more.

3)  2 weeks of missing your 1st training camp is huge.  Wilson had a whole training camp.

4)  Let's all take a deep breath and relax.

#2 matter2003

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 08:29 AM

People seem to forget Wilson was basically a "caretaker" at QB until week 9 or 10...

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 08:54 AM

Here's what i need to see from EJ this week.  Forget the stats, i want to see him throw a 25 yd frozen rope down the middle of the field, in a tight window, for a completion.  So far his best completion, by a mile is that corner endzone pass to Stevie in the NE game.  So he's like 2 for 12 on those fade passes with several going out of bounds.  Everything else has been short or to a wide open guy standing there.
Guys like Losman and Trent were exposed as frauds because they couldn't throw down the middle of the field in tight coverage.  Guys like Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Peyton, Wilson, etc...are pretty good at it!

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:00 AM

View PostC.Biscuit97, on 25 September 2013 - 08:06 AM, said:

Let me start off by saying this doesn't mean Manuel will ever be as good as Wilson, but let's settle down a bit.

Wilson:  http://sports.yahoo..../?season=2012_2
43 of 75 (57.3%), 434 yards (144.7 yards/ game), 5.79 ypa, 4 tds to 1 INT, 1 fumble lost, Seattle averages 19 points/ game.

Also in his 4th start, Wilson threw 0 tds and 3 ints.

Manuel:  http://sports.yahoo..../players/26639/
                                        64                            of 108                            (59.3%),                            689 yards (229.7 yards/ game),                            6.4 ypa,                            4 tds to                            
1 ints, 1 fumble lost.  21.7 points                        


1)  Both had 4td to 1 int ratio.  IMO, this is one of the most important stats for a QB.  You can win a lot of games with that ratio.

2)  Seattle might have the best defense in the NFL.  They carried that team while Wilson learned on the job.  With their injuries, the Bills have struggled on D.  Manuel has been asked to do much more.

3)  2 weeks of missing your 1st training camp is huge.  Wilson had a whole training camp.

4)  Let's all take a deep breath and relax.

if not for the "fail mary" it wouldve been even more impressive for EJ to compare the two

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:02 AM

But our QB looks like he is throwing darts during short passes and the shot put on long passes whereas Wilson looks like the throws mechanically much better....

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:04 AM

View PostBuffaloBillsMagic1, on 25 September 2013 - 09:02 AM, said:

But our QB looks like he is throwing darts during short passes and the shot put on long passes whereas Wilson looks like the throws mechanically much better....
If you don't see how good Ejs mechanics are you don't know a whole lot about playing QB

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:05 AM

i am still not sold on Wilson

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:05 AM

i look forward to the comparison next week. Wilson had a 14 QBR, with zero touchdowns and three interceptions in week 4.

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:06 AM

View Postzow2, on 25 September 2013 - 08:54 AM, said:

Here's what i need to see from EJ this week.  Forget the stats, i want to see him throw a 25 yd frozen rope down the middle of the field, in a tight window, for a completion.

it'll get dropped.

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:07 AM

View Postzow2, on 25 September 2013 - 08:54 AM, said:

Here's what i need to see from EJ this week.  Forget the stats, i want to see him throw a 25 yd frozen rope down the middle of the field, in a tight window, for a completion.  So far his best completion, by a mile is that corner endzone pass to Stevie in the NE game.  So he's like 2 for 12 on those fade passes with several going out of bounds.  Everything else has been short or to a wide open guy standing there.
Guys like Losman and Trent were exposed as frauds because they couldn't throw down the middle of the field in tight coverage.  Guys like Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Peyton, Wilson, etc...are pretty good at it!

I think his best pass was the one to Chandler into a tight window against NE* in week 1. It was a couple plays before the TD pass to a wide open Woods and it was that pass to Chandler that allowed Woods to get so wide open.

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View PostNoSaint, on 25 September 2013 - 09:05 AM, said:

i look forward to the comparison next week. Wilson had a 14 QBR, with zero touchdowns and three interceptions in week 4.

Does microscopes know that?

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:08 AM

But, but, but, 'Scopes told us Wilson was a STUD the second he stepped onto an NFL field!

Man oh man, what am I to think now!? :blink:

Edited by Heitz, 25 September 2013 - 09:08 AM.


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:11 AM

The problem here is that Wilson also motivates his team to play awesome defense, which EJ has yet to be able to do.

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:15 AM

View PostCaptain Hindsight, on 25 September 2013 - 09:04 AM, said:

If you don't see how good Ejs mechanics are you don't know a whole lot about playing QB

I like EJ quite a bit but the major flaw in his game, what causes him to be so innacurate, is his footwork. At times it's just horrible.

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:19 AM

Wilson was flat out horrible in week 4 last year and there was much talk of him getting benched. They lost to St. Louis and could not move the ball.

Edited by YoloInTheBlo, 25 September 2013 - 09:21 AM.


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:20 AM

View PostRuntheDamnBall, on 25 September 2013 - 09:11 AM, said:

The problem here is that Wilson also motivates his team to play awesome defense, which EJ has yet to be able to do.
So the QB motivates the defense.  Alrighty then.

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:21 AM

View PostRuntheDamnBall, on 25 September 2013 - 09:11 AM, said:

The problem here is that Wilson also motivates his team to play awesome defense, which EJ has yet to be able to do.

Haha! LOL! Well done, sir. Well done, indeed!

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:22 AM

View PostRuntheDamnBall, on 25 September 2013 - 09:11 AM, said:

The problem here is that Wilson also motivates his team to play awesome defense, which EJ has yet to be able to do.

My bad for not taking that into consideration. :nana:

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:23 AM

View PostRuntheDamnBall, on 25 September 2013 - 09:11 AM, said:

The problem here is that Wilson also motivates his team to play awesome defense, which EJ has yet to be able to do.

he also was generous enough to put the team first and pay the replacement refs out of his own game check.

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:23 AM

View PostYoloInTheBlo, on 25 September 2013 - 09:19 AM, said:

Wilson was flat out horrible in week 4 last year and there was much talk of him getting benched. They lost to St. Louis and could not move the ball.

By overreacting idiot fans and the media.  Worst mistake you can ever do is give up on a young player too early.  And Seattle allowed the game to slow down for Wilson and is now reaping the benefits.

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:24 AM

View PostNoSaint, on 25 September 2013 - 09:23 AM, said:

he also was generous enough to put the team first and pay the replacement refs out of his own game check.
You know, teammates see that and respond.  They see a leader, being born before their very eyes.





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