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#1 Bill from NYC

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 05:28 PM

1) Sure, I know about the punt return where he called a fair catch and was open enough to gain 5 or 10 yards. Yes, I get it. But I want players like Jim Leonhard on my football team every day. I always liked him more than Whitner and people said I was crazy. Whatever.

2) Say any bad things that you want to about Graham. Go ahead, and I will agree. But his move at the end of the 2nd quarter on the end around was just sick.

3) Woods is every single thing that I thought he would be, and even more. Pro ready? This kid gets OPEN!!!!!

4) Glen had a brutal game today. In the 2nd quarter, the sack that caused the fumble was all on him, and he was all alone to recover it but could not. And btw, a he committed a stupid penalty just before this play. Not cool.

5) Shaking in the bedroom, covers on your head
Cringing like a baby at the hand beneath the bed.
Phantom in the closet, scratching at the door,
The latest mystery killer that you saw on channel four,
When Push Comes To Shove, you're afraid of love.

6) Do you want to talk about who won us the game today? I love talking about this s%3t. Well obviously, let's go straight to Kiko. He was just awesome. What a GREAT draft selection he was. Seriously. More to come on this.....

7) Gotta give a big time and well deserved shout out to Easley on Special Teams. Man, does he get down the field in a hurry and make sure tackles!!!

8) Sorry to question the coaches after a win, but there seemed to be too many sequences in which we ran on 1st and 2nd down, only to throw on 3rd down. It was as if Joe Gibbs or Vince Lombardi were calling these plays. I don't know.....

9) What happened? When did Aaron Williams turn into a good football player? He was horrid. Seriously, the guy couldn't play at all until now. He played his ass off today!

10) His numbers weren't great, but Spiller played well imo. He was less tentative, and this matters.

11) Getting back to who won us the game, Marcel Dareus played the best game of his life. And yes, I do remember the game against the Redskins in which he put up great numbers against a decimated OL. Today, he was just off the charts great. He enabled the rest of the defense to do great things because he clogged up the middle AND was getting to Flacco. I was just so proud of him today.

12) I want some help here, but on the TD run by FJ, it looked to me as if Colin Brown threw a key block! Wtf???

13) I am not trying to convince any of you that Searcy is good. I will however maintain that I do want him on my football team.

14) Congrats to all. We really do deserve wins, ya know?

15) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited by Bill from NYC, 29 September 2013 - 05:33 PM.


#2 Big C

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 05:34 PM

Spiller was definitely better. I think we can attribute some of it to Summers' lead blocking. However, he did miss a couple cutbacks and there was a near-clear TD run where he cut back into defenders.

TJ Graham definitely has speed and moves. Good to see him make some positive plays today.

Searcy played very well today. The whole secondary, sans Rogers, played way beyond expectation.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 05:43 PM

How about a shout out to Lawson and Dareus???  They played great.  KW was good too.  Didn't see much from Hughes.  Mario saw double teams today.  Great run defense.  And you know what Colin Brown was servicable today.  EJ should have bowled over that DB on third down instead of sliding and coming up short.  Ok to slide against DL and LB's but EJ outweighed that guy by 50 lbs.  It's first down (and goal I think) if he just takes one more step forward and leads with his shoulder into the guy.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 05:44 PM

My observations:

1) Unless you're a HOF QB the 100% shotgun offense is an invitation to be pressured. Nice to see an offense with EJ under center and taking advantage of PA. I think it's a rookie QB's best friend.

2) Chandler finding his place in the offense, big target for EJ. Talking about TE's, Lee Smith owe us 4 points.

3) Kudos to Henderson for having the secondary ready for the challenge. We all expected disaster with a depleted secondary but Rogers wasn't victimized much and we may have found that #29 can play. Solid games from Searcy, Leonhard and especially A. Williams.

4) I hate that the Jets own us, they're looking like crap agains the Titans.

Edited by Fixxxer, 29 September 2013 - 05:45 PM.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 05:45 PM

I thought that EJ played the best game of his career thus far today. He made great decisions and some really well thrown balls. I wish he could have back that first possession where he had SJ open on the 3ish. We had to settle or a field goal. EJ didn't see him make the break.  He hung in the pocket and got some big gains with his feet too.

Stevie killed us today. It was more tha just being taken out of the game by the defense.  Killed a big run from EJ, and somehow forced a turnover on offense. There was another key drop or two. He looked more rookie than our rookies.These are mental lapses.

I really liked the coachin and play calling in the first. More seems, slants, and timing routes. We dd poorly at making adjustments through the half. I asked for peoples heads last week if they didn't improves. I must give credit where it is due. Not happy with the second half. Although a lt of the issues on offense where on te WR's

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 05:47 PM

I hate to pick nits on a victory, but I was very disappointed in our punter today.  Not the first time he's come up lame in key situations either.

And, unlike our franchise player, I admired the grit many players showed today fighting thru injury and pain.  Spiller, FJ, AW come to mind.  I believe Mario and Dareus were playing thru sprains as well.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 05:54 PM

dareus, williams, lawson, alonso, mario, hughes had some pressure, leonard was good, searcy had some plays, aaron williams was a part of quite a few plays, and i thought justin rogers had a nice bounce back. overall great effort by the defense.

offensively, i loved the heart that freddy ran with and the 42 yard strike from ej to woods. also, cj was running fast and decisive, and the o-line seemed to do a nice job as well.
oh yeah, that play-action pass was a thing of beauty.

Edited by swnybillsfan, 29 September 2013 - 05:55 PM.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 05:55 PM

Great points as always Bill and for once I knew the Dead song you referenced. What a great day :)

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 05:56 PM

Manuel's repertoire is expanding. That's what I see. they are adding to what the offense can do, each week. It's gonna take some time before he (and the receiver are learning with him) can execute all the different play well. He is doing really well to me (and not just this game).

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 05:57 PM

I was upset by the 2 review over roles.  No way there was conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 05:57 PM

One fourth of the way through the season and Kiko Alonso must be light years ahead of any other DROY at this point. Right?

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:00 PM

Yup....slowly open up more each week...more designed runs by EJ.  He did however have 2 horribly under thrown balls on deep routes.  But he is getting better each play!

View PostMarauder, on 29 September 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

Manuel's repertoire is expanding. That's what I see. they are adding to what the offense can do, each week. It's gonna take some time before he (and the receiver are learning with him) can execute all the different play well. He is doing really well to me (and not just this game).


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:01 PM

View PostThe Big Cat, on 29 September 2013 - 05:57 PM, said:

One fourth of the way through the season and Kiko Alonso must be light years ahead of any other DROY at this point. Right?

People keep talking DROY, but why not Defensive Player of the Year, period?  His stat line would warrant it, and like today, a number of his big plays have been "key".  Not to harp on a point to much, but imagine if he played in NY, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Dallas or New New England?  He'd certainly be getting that kind of press, wouldn't he?

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:03 PM

View PostThe Big Cat, on 29 September 2013 - 05:57 PM, said:

One fourth of the way through the season and Kiko Alonso must be light years ahead of any other DROY at this point. Right?

Star Lotulelei and Sheldon Richardson are both having great seasons so far, but Kiko is making bigger plays.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:03 PM

View PostThe Big Cat, on 29 September 2013 - 05:57 PM, said:

One fourth of the way through the season and Kiko Alonso must be light years ahead of any other DROY at this point. Right?

Maybe not light years, but he should be on the short list for Rookie of the Year at this point.  He's the best LB I've seen the Bills put on the field since...London Fletcher, maybe?

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:06 PM

I always enjoy your AFTABTGINPO posts. Thanks, man.

View PostBill from NYC, on 29 September 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

1) Sure, I know about the punt return where he called a fair catch and was open enough to gain 5 or 10 yards. Yes, I get it. But I want players like Jim Leonhard on my football team every day. I always liked him more than Whitner and people said I was crazy. Whatever.

2) Say any bad things that you want to about Graham. Go ahead, and I will agree. But his move at the end of the 2nd quarter on the end around was just sick.

3) Woods is every single thing that I thought he would be, and even more. Pro ready? This kid gets OPEN!!!!!

4) Glen had a brutal game today. In the 2nd quarter, the sack that caused the fumble was all on him, and he was all alone to recover it but could not. And btw, a he committed a stupid penalty just before this play. Not cool.

5) Shaking in the bedroom, covers on your head
Cringing like a baby at the hand beneath the bed.
Phantom in the closet, scratching at the door,
The latest mystery killer that you saw on channel four,
When Push Comes To Shove, you're afraid of love.

6) Do you want to talk about who won us the game today? I love talking about this s%3t. Well obviously, let's go straight to Kiko. He was just awesome. What a GREAT draft selection he was. Seriously. More to come on this.....

7) Gotta give a big time and well deserved shout out to Easley on Special Teams. Man, does he get down the field in a hurry and make sure tackles!!!

8) Sorry to question the coaches after a win, but there seemed to be too many sequences in which we ran on 1st and 2nd down, only to throw on 3rd down. It was as if Joe Gibbs or Vince Lombardi were calling these plays. I don't know.....

9) What happened? When did Aaron Williams turn into a good football player? He was horrid. Seriously, the guy couldn't play at all until now. He played his ass off today!

10) His numbers weren't great, but Spiller played well imo. He was less tentative, and this matters.

11) Getting back to who won us the game, Marcel Dareus played the best game of his life. And yes, I do remember the game against the Redskins in which he put up great numbers against a decimated OL. Today, he was just off the charts great. He enabled the rest of the defense to do great things because he clogged up the middle AND was getting to Flacco. I was just so proud of him today.

12) I want some help here, but on the TD run by FJ, it looked to me as if Colin Brown threw a key block! Wtf???

13) I am not trying to convince any of you that Searcy is good. I will however maintain that I do want him on my football team.

14) Congrats to all. We really do deserve wins, ya know?

15) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:07 PM

View PostMattM, on 29 September 2013 - 06:01 PM, said:

People keep talking DROY, but why not Defensive Player of the Year, period?  His stat line would warrant it, and like today, a number of his big plays have been "key".  Not to harp on a point to much, but imagine if he played in NY, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Dallas or New New England?  He'd certainly be getting that kind of press, wouldn't he?

View PostBig C, on 29 September 2013 - 06:03 PM, said:

Star Lotulelei and Sheldon Richardson are both having great seasons so far, but Kiko is making bigger plays.

Great points. Not only is he making plays. He makes them when they MATTER. Love this guy.

View PostDC Tom, on 29 September 2013 - 06:03 PM, said:

Maybe not light years, but he should be on the short list for Rookie of the Year at this point.  He's the best LB I've seen the Bills put on the field since...London Fletcher, maybe?

Earlier today I was thinking of him vs. Poz. Wasn't much to think about, really.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:08 PM

View PostDragonborn10, on 29 September 2013 - 05:43 PM, said:

How about a shout out to Lawson and Dareus???  They played great.  KW was good too.  Didn't see much from Hughes.  Mario saw double teams today.  Great run defense.  And you know what Colin Brown was servicable today.  EJ should have bowled over that DB on third down instead of sliding and coming up short.  Ok to slide against DL and LB's but EJ outweighed that guy by 50 lbs.  It's first down (and goal I think) if he just takes one more step forward and leads with his shoulder into the guy.
I disagree on the EJ criticism....physics is all well and good in retrospect, but DB's can inflict just as severe a hit (if not worse) than a bumbling DT or a LB. He did what he was taught and is a rookie. I saw improvement today and that is important in a young QB. Plus he's healthy.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:08 PM

View PostDC Tom, on 29 September 2013 - 06:03 PM, said:

Maybe not light years, but he should be on the short list for Rookie of the Year at this point.  He's the best LB I've seen the Bills put on the field since...London Fletcher, maybe?

i think he is clearly better than london 'tacklem after a good gain' fletcher...ps i am impressed that london is still playing at 40

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 06:11 PM

Woods has become the Bills number 1 WR in the 4th game, didn't see that coming

Glenn was facing one of the best pass rushers in the game and overall think he played a good game. Yes he should hv recovered the fumble but never seems easy for the big guys

A lot of ppl knock Chandler but when hit in stride is a good reliable receiver

I also like Leonard who is a hard nosed solid player