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#1 alias

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 08:41 PM

Twice, maybe thrice, EJ faked me out of my chair as I watched him hand off (or did he?).  And I was not alone; the camera and the play-by-play announcer were likewise fooled.

EJ Manuel: strong of arm/sleight of hand.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 08:45 PM

View Postalias, on 30 September 2013 - 08:41 PM, said:

Twice, maybe thrice, EJ faked me out of my chair as I watched him hand off (or did he?).  And I was not alone; the camera and the play-by-play announcer were likewise fooled.

EJ Manuel: strong of arm/sleight of hand.
You were faked out by his fakes?  Gosh, if there is one thing I think EJ is struggling with it is his fakes.  He has trouble holding the ball - its like he is not quick enough with his hands.  Gosh... really?  On his pump fakes I would see easily getting a half second out of you but not on his handoffs.  They're horrible.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 08:54 PM

View Postjboyst62, on 30 September 2013 - 08:45 PM, said:

Gosh... really?  

Really, JoyBoy, really.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 08:59 PM

View Postalias, on 30 September 2013 - 08:54 PM, said:

Really, JoyBoy, really.
like for real really, billy.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:05 PM

View Postjboyst62, on 30 September 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

like for real really, billy.

Like for real really, JoyBoy, like for real really.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:27 PM

View Postjboyst62, on 30 September 2013 - 08:45 PM, said:

You were faked out by his fakes?  Gosh, if there is one thing I think EJ is struggling with it is his fakes.  He has trouble holding the ball - its like he is not quick enough with his hands.  Gosh... really?  On his pump fakes I would see easily getting a half second out of you but not on his handoffs.  They're horrible.

The ball fake EJ did on the fake handoff/fake reverse, stand there for a few seconds with ball hidden on the side of the hip only to have a wide open Lee Smith trip over the 5 yard line was one of the prettiest ball fakes you will ever see

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:50 PM

I agree.  There was about 3 in the game that really threw me off. And they were all right in front of me in the tunnel side end zone area.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:58 PM

Hmm maybe it was because I had a blurry feed and could not tell ball from Dareus.

I think his handoffs were rough

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:09 PM

I think he's got the best ball handling skills of any Bills QB since...I don't know, Doug Flutie?

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 01:43 AM

He handles it well when he doesn't drop it.  I agree that he made some good plays Sunday, but he HAS to start taking better care of the football.  He can't keep giving the other team the ball every week with fumbles in our own territory.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 03:56 AM

I think on the play where he bobbled it before fumbling, a defender swiped at the ball and knocked it away from Manuel. I haven't heard it mentioned anywhere. Did anybody else see that?

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 06:20 AM

He did have a few that were great fakes.  He had a few sloppy ones too.  OT...what bothers me is the strange mechanics of his throwing motion when read #1 is not there.  Sometimes looks more like a shot-put heave than a football pass.  He needs more time to develop obviously.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:03 AM

View Postmatter2003, on 30 September 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

The ball fake EJ did on the fake handoff/fake reverse, stand there for a few seconds with ball hidden on the side of the hip only to have a wide open Lee Smith trip over the 5 yard line was one of the prettiest ball fakes you will ever see
This.  And there were others as well. I completely agree with the OP.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:34 AM

Yes, finally we have a QB that at least attempts to use deception, and very well as times. Never understood why every QB would not do so.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 08:54 AM

View PostBilLions, on 01 October 2013 - 07:34 AM, said:

Yes, finally we have a QB that at least attempts to use deception, and very well as times. Never understood why every QB would not do so.
It amazes me how hard NFL Defenses still bite on play action, when done well. Including our own in the Jets game. But it does work.