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#1 Bill from NYC

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 04:58 PM

1) Aaron Williams played his ass off today and I for one appreciate this.

2) Dareus recorded 4 tackles and 2 assists, but imo he didn't play so well. He provided vey little push up the middle.

3) Marrone is a horror show. I am sorry, but he is. Before the deuce at the half, he cost us 7 points. This is not the first time he has hurt us before the half. And really, are you looking at him? Does he not look lost? Please list coaches that you think are worse than him.

4) Mario is just great. Seriously, the man is GREAT!!!!! He took over this game and won us a divisional game on the road. This is what is supposed to happen with players on whom a team invests their most resources. It was wonderful to see this fantastic player play at such a high level, no?  

5) If anybody wants to sing the praises of Gilmore, please do. That said, I loved what I saw from Robey!!!

6) Kyle Williams recovered the fumble, but he was not all that impressive. I am thinking that the Bills gave up a bit too much up the middle. I don't know what his story is.

7) Sun went down in honey,
Moon came up in wine.
Stars were spinnin' dizzy,
Lord, the band kept us so busy,
We forgot about the time.

They're a band beyond description
Like Jehovah's favorite choir.
People joinin' hand in hand
While the music plays the band.
Lord, they're setting us on fire!!!

8) Robert Woods didn't have great numbers today, but I am just SO impressed with this kid. I feel like he is always helping this football team.

10) Granted, Choice and SJ had brutal drops in the first quarter, but both missed passes appeared to have been forced and lacking in touch.

11) There should have been more called running plays to Lewis. Period. I won't back down on this and I blame Marrone.

12) Kudos to McKelvin for playing what I think was the best game of his life.

13) Congrats to my Bills friends!!!!!!!

14) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited by Bill from NYC, 20 October 2013 - 05:29 PM.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:02 PM

View PostBill from NYC, on 20 October 2013 - 04:58 PM, said:

his ass off today and I for one appreciate this.


11) There should have been more called running plays to Lewis. Period. I won't back down on this and I blame Marrone.


13) I think that there should have been called running plays to Lewis.



Someone has been throwin' a few back today! :D

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:05 PM

Just glad Gailey -Fitz-Nix are gone and the rookies are rolling....and this with a QB one week off the PS.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:09 PM

View PostBill from NYC, on 20 October 2013 - 04:58 PM, said:

1) Aaron Williams played his ass off today and I for one appreciate this.

2) Dareus recorded 4 tackles and 2 assists, but imo he didn't play so well. He provided vey little push up the middle.

3) Marrone is a horror show. I am sorry, but he is. Before the deuce at the half, he cost us 7 points. This is not the first time he has hurt us before the half. And really, are you looking at him? Does he not look lost? Please list coaches that you think are worse than him.

4) Mario is just great. Seriously, the man is GREAT!!!!! He took over this game and won us a divisional game on the road. This is what is supposed to happen with players on whom a team invests their most resources. It was wonderful to see this fantastic player play at such a high level, no?  

5) If anybody wants to sing the praises of Gilmore, please do. That said, I loved what I saw from Robey!!!

6) Kyle Williams recovered the fumble, but he was not all that impressive. I am thinking that the Bills gave up a bit too much up the middle. I don't know what his story is.

7) Sun went down in honey,
Moon came up in wine.
Stars were spinnin' dizzy,
Lord, the band kept us so busy,
We forgot about the time.

They're a band beyond description
Like Jehovah's favorite choir.
People joinin' hand in hand
While the music plays the band.
Lord, they're setting us on fire!!!

8) Robert Woods didn't have great numbers today, but I am just SO impressed with this kid. I feel like he is always helping this football team.

10) Granted, Choice and SJ had brutal drops in the first quarter, but both missed passes appeared to have been forced and lacking in touch.

11) There should have been more called running plays to Lewis. Period. I won't back down on this and I blame Marrone.

12) Kudos to McKelvin for playing what I think was the best game of his life.

13) I think that there should have been called running plays to Lewis.

14) Congrats to my Bills friends!!!!!!!

15) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Except for 14, this reads like we lost the game.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:12 PM

View PostBill from NYC, on 20 October 2013 - 04:58 PM, said:

1) Aaron Williams played his ass off today and I for one appreciate this.

All the Williams boys played well


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:13 PM

I thought Dareus was our best player today.  I like Woods but I'm not sure what he did that impressed you so much today.  Calling Marrone a "horror show" is a bit harsh, no?  I just don't understand why you pick people (Gilmore and Marrone) and just ride them so incredibly unobjectively (not a word apparently).  No, he doesn't look lost.  I like him a lot.  Other coaches would've found ways to lose that game.  Ron Rivera is a worse coach than Doug Marrone.  I am all about the Dead man (went to Dark Star in Boulder last night) but I just don't know what game you are watching most of the time.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:15 PM

Conpletely disagree about Marrone. There is a reason why this team has been tied or ahead in the 4th quarter of every game this season.  The coaching staff has this team ready to play competitively every week.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:15 PM

Gilmore is playing with a club on his hand, I really don't get why you bash him every week. ya he didn't play well but like I said the man has a cast on his hand

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:17 PM

View PostBill from NYC, on 20 October 2013 - 04:58 PM, said:

1) Aaron Williams played his ass off today and I for one appreciate this.

2) Dareus recorded 4 tackles and 2 assists, but imo he didn't play so well. He provided vey little push up the middle.

3) Marrone is a horror show. I am sorry, but he is. Before the deuce at the half, he cost us 7 points. This is not the first time he has hurt us before the half. And really, are you looking at him? Does he not look lost? Please list coaches that you think are worse than him.

4) Mario is just great. Seriously, the man is GREAT!!!!! He took over this game and won us a divisional game on the road. This is what is supposed to happen with players on whom a team invests their most resources. It was wonderful to see this fantastic player play at such a high level, no?  

5) If anybody wants to sing the praises of Gilmore, please do. That said, I loved what I saw from Robey!!!

6) Kyle Williams recovered the fumble, but he was not all that impressive. I am thinking that the Bills gave up a bit too much up the middle. I don't know what his story is.

7) Sun went down in honey,
Moon came up in wine.
Stars were spinnin' dizzy,
Lord, the band kept us so busy,
We forgot about the time.

They're a band beyond description
Like Jehovah's favorite choir.
People joinin' hand in hand
While the music plays the band.
Lord, they're setting us on fire!!!

8) Robert Woods didn't have great numbers today, but I am just SO impressed with this kid. I feel like he is always helping this football team.

10) Granted, Choice and SJ had brutal drops in the first quarter, but both missed passes appeared to have been forced and lacking in touch.

11) There should have been more called running plays to Lewis. Period. I won't back down on this and I blame Marrone.

12) Kudos to McKelvin for playing what I think was the best game of his life.

13) I think that there should have been called running plays to Lewis.

14) Congrats to my Bills friends!!!!!!!

15) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Agreed on Marrone. Posted it another thread. Up 10 before the half we chuck it 3 straight times with a 3rd string QB. Stupidity at it finest.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:17 PM

View PostBill from NYC, on 20 October 2013 - 04:58 PM, said:

2) Dareus recorded 4 tackles and 2 assists, but imo he didn't play so well. He provided vey little push up the middle.

3) Marrone is a horror show. I am sorry, but he is. Before the deuce at the half, he cost us 7 points. This is not the first time he has hurt us before the half. And really, are you looking at him? Does he not look lost? Please list coaches that you think are worse than him.


Bill, for whatever reason your dislike for Darius clouds your view of him. Was he dominant? No! Bad? No! The teams has bigger problems than his play.

As for Marrone, I agree with you at one level, whether it's him or Hackett, the game situation awareness and management has been poor, very poor, at times. And I totally agree with you that this happened again at the end of the half. Even if you just run the clock out, or way down, and go in with a 10 point lead, while maybe conservative, it is on the road and 10 points is pretty good at the half.

As for overall, you cannot deny that he has had the team prepared and ready to play every week. And all that with a rash of injuries at key positions, and not the least being QB. Overall, I would say better than Chan, but with some serious lessons to learn about game management.

Edited by CSBill, 20 October 2013 - 05:18 PM.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:20 PM

The Bills are soft up the middle and need a real NT/DT bc neither Kyle nor Dareus get the kind of push or can clog up the middle the way it should be

I don't understand why they can't get the wide receivers involved more and why they ignore the middle of the field most of the game

Edited by Max997, 20 October 2013 - 05:21 PM.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:21 PM

Mckelvins one big mistake followed by marrones -- that fair catch at the 5 with 4-5 mins left then milking the clock the drive that followed. Things worked out but man that was a rough few minutes and we are lucky we got the ball back without needing to get 80 yards in60 seconds. Agreed before the half - needing big yards with a sputtering offense and momentum turning just get into the lockerroom. I like him but his end of half clock management scares me sometimes. I've mentioned it a few times. Still think he's a keeper currently though.

Edited by NoSaint, 20 October 2013 - 05:22 PM.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:24 PM

View PostBill from NYC, on 20 October 2013 - 04:58 PM, said:

1) Aaron Williams played his ass off today and I for one appreciate this.

2) Dareus recorded 4 tackles and 2 assists, but imo he didn't play so well. He provided vey little push up the middle.

3) Marrone is a horror show. I am sorry, but he is. Before the deuce at the half, he cost us 7 points. This is not the first time he has hurt us before the half. And really, are you looking at him? Does he not look lost? Please list coaches that you think are worse than him.

4) Mario is just great. Seriously, the man is GREAT!!!!! He took over this game and won us a divisional game on the road. This is what is supposed to happen with players on whom a team invests their most resources. It was wonderful to see this fantastic player play at such a high level, no?  

5) If anybody wants to sing the praises of Gilmore, please do. That said, I loved what I saw from Robey!!!

6) Kyle Williams recovered the fumble, but he was not all that impressive. I am thinking that the Bills gave up a bit too much up the middle. I don't know what his story is.

7) Sun went down in honey,
Moon came up in wine.
Stars were spinnin' dizzy,
Lord, the band kept us so busy,
We forgot about the time.

They're a band beyond description
Like Jehovah's favorite choir.
People joinin' hand in hand
While the music plays the band.
Lord, they're setting us on fire!!!

8) Robert Woods didn't have great numbers today, but I am just SO impressed with this kid. I feel like he is always helping this football team.

10) Granted, Choice and SJ had brutal drops in the first quarter, but both missed passes appeared to have been forced and lacking in touch.

11) There should have been more called running plays to Lewis. Period. I won't back down on this and I blame Marrone.

12) Kudos to McKelvin for playing what I think was the best game of his life.

13) I think that there should have been called running plays to Lewis.

14) Congrats to my Bills friends!!!!!!!

15) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



1) Aaron Williams played his ass off today and I for one appreciate this.  Yes, he is playing well.  

2) Dareus recorded 4 tackles and 2 assists, but imo he didn't play so well. He provided vey little push up the middle.   Nope, several good run stuffs. I saw him being held a lot.  We need better LBs.  

3) Marrone is a horror show. I am sorry, but he is. Before the deuce at the half, he cost us 7 points. This is not the first time he has hurt us before the half. And really, are you looking at him? Does he not look lost? Please list coaches that you think are worse than him.  Agree that he should have taken time off of the clock and get to the half with a 10 point lead on the road.  Seems to be learning game managment or else he needs to rein in Hackett.  

On the positive side, I loved his intensity, his "talking" to the refs about the game and the calls,  and his challenges are good.  He is involved in the game.  Too many past coaches sat there like stiffs.  I like the fact the team is playing hard for him.  

4) Mario is just great. Seriously, the man is GREAT!!!!! He took over this game and won us a divisional game on the road. This is what is supposed to happen with players on whom a team invests their most resources. It was wonderful to see this fantastic player play at such a high level, no?  I hope it lasts.  

5) If anybody wants to sing the praises of Gilmore, please do. That said, I loved what I saw from Robey!!!  Gimore played hard and his coverage was mostly fine -  while playing with a severe handicap he is still better than what we had.  They are attacking him and he is doing fine.  I saw him swinging his club without concern for further injury while trying hard to make a tackle.  We have players on this team that do not play hurt.  This kid will be very good, give him a break.  

Robey is looking like a nice nickel DB.  

6) Kyle Williams recovered the fumble, but he was not all that impressive. I am thinking that the Bills gave up a bit too much up the middle. I don't know what his story is.

Look at the LB play.  Kiko is playing well but sometimes he gives up a lot on the run.  He is bit light. He was manhandled one-on-one for a few big runs up the gut.  I hope he can gain some weight and still play fast.  

7)

8) Robert Woods didn't have great numbers today, but I am just SO impressed with this kid. I feel like he is always helping this football team.

Meh.  We will see.  I like him so far.  

10) Granted, Choice and SJ had brutal drops in the first quarter, but both missed passes appeared to have been forced and lacking in touch.

Third string QB, still gaining experience.  

11) There should have been more called running plays to Lewis. Period. I won't back down on this and I blame Marrone.

???  Really?

And if we lose Lewis we get Tuel.  


12) Kudos to McKelvin for playing what I think was the best game of his life.  He played well and I am happy he avoided some close PI situations.  

13) I think that there should have been called running plays to Lewis.

14) Congrats to my Bills friends!!!!!!!  Thanks and Cheers Bill!  

15) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Yes!  

Edited by Bob in STL, 20 October 2013 - 05:26 PM.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:27 PM

Oh, one thing Bill didn't mentioned: While no Pro Bowler, Thad Lewis is proving he has grit and the ability to lead this team in EJ's absence. He gets hit a lot, but jumps right back up and is determined to go. His play has been more than respectable. A nice find by the management.

He deserves props for his gutty performance again today.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:27 PM

View PostScottLaw, on 20 October 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

Agreed on Marrone. Posted it another thread. Up 10 before the half we chuck it 3 straight times with a 3rd string QB. Stupidity at it finest.
Uhh maybe because we were trying to score points.  The "3rd string quarterback" thing means nothing.  He's playing at every bit the level that Manuel was playing.  If they run it up the middle three straight times and Miami stops the clock and scores, you'd have more people on here complaining about them being too conservative.  I like the aggressiveness.  In fact, I thought they should've gone for it from (what was it, the 2?) and I think he would have had he not been burned by it last week.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:34 PM

View Postmetzelaars_lives, on 20 October 2013 - 05:27 PM, said:


Uhh maybe because we were trying to score points.  The "3rd string quarterback" thing means nothing.  He's playing at every bit the level that Manuel was playing.  If they run it up the middle three straight times and Miami stops the clock and scores, you'd have more people on here complaining about them being too conservative.  I like the aggressiveness.  In fact, I thought they should've gone for it from (what was it, the 2?) and I think he would have had he not been burned by it last week.

We got the ball up 10, with 1:47 left in the half. They burned 10 seconds off the clock. With Thad Lewis as your QB and with your team in complete control of the game the smart thing to do would be run the football. If they did that, the chances of Miami getting a Touchdown are a lot slimer considering they would've had less time and none of their timeouts. There's a time to be aggressive and a time to be conservative. That was a time to be conservative.

Edited by ScottLaw, 20 October 2013 - 05:38 PM.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:37 PM

View PostCSBill, on 20 October 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

Bill, for whatever reason your dislike for Darius clouds your view of him. Was he dominant? No! Bad? No! The teams has bigger problems than his play.

Dislike for Dareus? I am an Alabama Fan. I watched his entire career and have rooted for him big time since day 1. That said, he was the 3rd overall pick in an NFL draft. I am thinking that we have a right to expect more.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:40 PM

View PostBill from NYC, on 20 October 2013 - 05:37 PM, said:

I am an Alabama Fan.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:44 PM

View PostBill from NYC, on 20 October 2013 - 04:58 PM, said:

14) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Agree about Aaron Williams
2. and 6. I disagree as I thought both Dareus and Kyle played good games. And for those thinking he should have run in the fumble, I disagree. He did the right thing by securing the ball. He is not paid to run with the ball and bad things could have happened. He did his job.
3. Marrone is a work in progress but he is a rookie HC in the NFL. He deserves some slack. Keeping the team together when the Dolphins had the momentum is huge. He has had some questionable decisions particularly in clock management (in earlier games too) but he is far from a disaster. He is having the guys play hard and will improve, IMHO
4. Mario made the big plays we brought him in for. It has been a long time since our D changed the outcome of the game

I am surprised you gave no props to Fred Jackson. I think he played his rear off and ranks way up there in my list of all time favorite Bills. Guy is just too good and plays hard.

Edited by Fan in Chicago, 20 October 2013 - 05:45 PM.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 05:52 PM

Mckelvin had an awful game minus that great pass breakup