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#1 John from Hemet

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:53 PM

There is little intangible that cannot be weighed or measured.....and I think EJ has it.....

And I think he bounces back next week.

#2 San-O

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:57 PM

Based on what?

Bounces back?  To where?  Mediocre?

#3 Rob's House

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 09:57 PM



#4 Mike in Horseheads

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:04 PM



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:04 PM

I turned the game off in the 3rd quarter and watched RedZone the rest of the day...it's one thing if we play hard and just get beat by the better team, but we are starting to consistently beat ourselves with dumb penalties and turnovers...it's so damn aggravating. I got frustrated with EJ, too....especially when I see him throw short on 3rd down. But he's a smart kid with a solid work ethic and the Bills drafted him for a reason.

I don't care what happened before this year. We have a new regime and they deserve time to get it right just like every other regime change had. As of today, they have chosen EJ to be our QB, and no matter how frustrated I get or how many times I have to switch off the game in disgust, I'm going to support EJ until he's shown one way or another what kind of player he'll be in this league.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:04 PM

Wow, I'm not sure whether to applaud the optimism or cry over the false hope.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:07 PM

View Postajzepp, on 10 November 2013 - 10:04 PM, said:

I turned the game off in the 3rd quarter and watched RedZone the rest of the day...it's one thing if we play hard and just get beat by the better team, but we are starting to consistently beat ourselves with dumb penalties and turnovers...it's so damn aggravating. I got frustrated with EJ, too....especially when I see him throw short on 3rd down. But he's a smart kid with a solid work ethic and the Bills drafted him for a reason.

I don't care what happened before this year. We have a new regime and they deserve time to get it right just like every other regime change had. As of today, they have chosen EJ to be our QB, and no matter how frustrated I get or how many times I have to switch off the game in disgust, I'm going to support EJ until he's shown one way or another what kind of player he'll be in this league.

The bills drafted him for a reason...Is that supposed to be comforting?

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:10 PM

View PostScottLaw, on 10 November 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

The bills drafted him for a reason...Is that supposed to be comforting?

What does it matter?

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:13 PM

View PostJohn from Hemet, on 10 November 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

There is little intangible that cannot be weighed or measured.....and I think EJ has it.....

And I think he bounces back next week.

Gotta admire your outlook after the deflating performance by EJ in particular and the team in general today that sucked the life out of this season.  I'm not so sure that the bounce back comes next week against a better defensive opponent in the Jets D. Hope you're right though.

Edited by 26CornerBlitz, 10 November 2013 - 10:14 PM.


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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:15 PM

View Postajzepp, on 10 November 2013 - 10:04 PM, said:

I turned the game off in the 3rd quarter and watched RedZone the rest of the day...it's one thing if we play hard and just get beat by the better team, but we are starting to consistently beat ourselves with dumb penalties and turnovers...it's so damn aggravating. I got frustrated with EJ, too....especially when I see him throw short on 3rd down. But he's a smart kid with a solid work ethic and the Bills drafted him for a reason.

I don't care what happened before this year. We have a new regime and they deserve time to get it right just like every other regime change had. As of today, they have chosen EJ to be our QB, and no matter how frustrated I get or how many times I have to switch off the game in disgust, I'm going to support EJ until he's shown one way or another what kind of player he'll be in this league.

its the same damn regime with a few pieces shuffled

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:17 PM

View Postajzepp, on 10 November 2013 - 10:10 PM, said:



What does it matter?

I guess it doesn't. You said the Bills drafted him for a reason. That means absolutely nothing to me. If anything it makes me more of a skeptic, because the Bills judgement of talent/QB talent has been pretty damn bad the past 13 years.

Edited by ScottLaw, 10 November 2013 - 10:19 PM.


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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:17 PM

A couple more games like that and I will be ready to kick this QB experiment to the curb.  Talk about a setback.   Who knew EJ would look this bad after missing those games...

You have to wonder how he looked in practice this week...Did he look in sync or not?   Hard to believe he looked good in practice and came out playing that game.

Ladies and Gentlemen we have a new captain checkdown.....

Every single game matters in the NFL.....every single game.....this one sucked and it hurt bad.....

Hard to believe we actually downgraded in quarterback from last week and the week before and the week before.......pissed.....

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:19 PM

trent Edwards throws deeper and more accurately...and I hate his guts.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:25 PM

View PostScottLaw, on 10 November 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

I guess it doesn't. You said the Bills drafted him for a reason. That means absolutely nothing to me. If anything it makes me more of a skeptic, because the Bills judgement of talent/QB talent had been pretty damn bad the past 13 years.

Well...I don't really base my posts on whether or not they'll mean anything to you...you're not really my target audience.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:29 PM

He didn't throw one good pass all game.  At least Tuel had a few of them.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:31 PM

JOH you are a good guy but please stop. EJ isn't the answer and its clear to anyone who isn't being a homer. The good Rookie QB's that have come out the last 2-3 years CLEARLY had something and EJ doesn't.   Hell there is a redshirt freshman down at FSU running the same offense EJ did and crushing anything EJ accomplished. He is an average to below average QB who can't read a defense, isn't accurate and is nothing but a  checkdown guy.  We will be drafting  a QB again in the 2016 draft

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:31 PM

I just hope to hear those golden words " And with the fifth overall pick in the 2014 draft, the Buffalo Bills select QB Johnny Manziel!" This crap we've been subjected to for far to long needs to stop! We are not going to win games throwing for barely over 100 ypg.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:32 PM

View PostJohn from Hemet, on 10 November 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

There is little intangible that cannot be weighed or measured.....and I think EJ has it.....

And I think he bounces back next week.

And ur basing this on what?

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:33 PM

View PostJohn from Hemet, on 10 November 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

There is little intangible that cannot be weighed or measured.....and I think EJ has it.....

And I think he bounces back next week.
EJ has not shown anything this year for me to be excited about.  At this point, he's working off a good, not great college career and a very underwhelming rookie season.  IMO, he's looked bad far more than he's looked good.

I am not in the camp that rookie QBs have to prove their worth in year one, but EJ doesn't seem to be capable of making throws all NFL QBs should make. I'm certainly hoping he has it in him to turn it around, but honestly, based on what I've seen so far it will surprise me if he does.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:34 PM

View PostKGUNBILLS, on 10 November 2013 - 10:31 PM, said:

I just hope to hear those golden words " And with the fifth overall pick in the 2014 draft, the Buffalo Bills select QB Johnny Manziel!" This crap we've been subjected to for far to long needs to stop! We are not going to win games throwing for barely over 100 ypg.

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