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#1 YoloinOhio

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:29 AM

Greg Cosell was on Colin Cowherd's show today and said Mike Glennon is by far the best rookie QB in this class and it wasn't close. He said it was based on his QB attributes. He is far advanced in the pocket - moreso than RGIII now in his 2nd year. Anticipation, timing and accuracy. Said of course it could all change and he could have a bad game anytime, has only started 6 or 7.

So would one bad game by Glennon, as he said, then all of a suddent not make him not the best  QB in this rookie class? I feel like he was extremely strong in how he stated his opinion. He did not speak specifically to EJ or Geno, although Cowherd did not ask him any follow-up questions other than to sound stunned and say "really?!?"

I am not surprised by Cosell's comments as he saw EJ as a 4th rd talent prior to the draft. I believe he had Barkley in the 4th and then said he though EJ would not be taken before him. That said, he also said he thought Nassib would go the highest of all of them, if I recall correctly.

Edited by YoloInTheBlo, 21 November 2013 - 11:47 AM.


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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:31 AM

Based on live game action, Glennon has looked better than any rookie QB.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:33 AM

So he is supposed to change his tune now?  I dont expect him to.

Not hearing Maylock detract his statements about Cordy Glenn (which he really needs to do)

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:34 AM

Awesome, I feel vindicated Lol.   Check my posts from the fall of 2012 and i was head of the Glennon bandwagon wanting the Bills to draft him early.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:35 AM

View PostJohn from Hemet, on 21 November 2013 - 11:33 AM, said:

So he is supposed to change his tune now?  I dont expect him to.

Not hearing Maylock detract his statements about Cordy Glenn (which he really needs to do)
My question pertained to Glennon. Cosell said something along the lines of this could all change, if Glennon has a bad game. One bad game would change everything? I thought it "wasn't even close." That's what I thought was funny.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:35 AM

View PostJohn from Hemet, on 21 November 2013 - 11:33 AM, said:

So he is supposed to change his tune now?  I dont expect him to.

Not hearing Maylock detract his statements about Cordy Glenn (which he really needs to do)

To be fair, the prognosticators would have to detract statements for about 200 guys each draft.  It's not a science, as much as they try to pitch themselves as experts.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:38 AM

View Postzow2, on 21 November 2013 - 11:34 AM, said:

Awesome, I feel vindicated Lol.   Check my posts from the fall of 2012 and i was head of the Glennon bandwagon wanting the Bills to draft him early.
I think Glennon is OK but I think he is somewhat of a statue. He has very limited mobility or escapability. I think where he was drafted was appropriate. I can see why Schiano wanted to get him in there. I did not think he was great in college, but I only saw him play a couple times. He could end up being the next Tom Brady - also no mobility.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:41 AM

View PostYoloInTheBlo, on 21 November 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

He could end up being the next Tom Brady - also no mobility.

I'm sure that's why the Bucs are already down on him.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:43 AM

View Postzow2, on 21 November 2013 - 11:34 AM, said:

Awesome, I feel vindicated Lol.   Check my posts from the fall of 2012 and i was head of the Glennon bandwagon wanting the Bills to draft him early.
  I'll get right on that

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:44 AM

View PostYoloInTheBlo, on 21 November 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

I think Glennon is OK but I think he is somewhat of a statue. He has very limited mobility or escapability. I think where he was drafted was appropriate. I can see why Schiano wanted to get him in there. I did not think he was great in college, but I only saw him play a couple times. He could end up being the next Tom Brady - also no mobility.

I always thought he was a pro looking QB in college.  He just had that look and arm strength.  Anyone who goes 20 for 23 (87%) with a 10 yd per pass avg, 2 TDs 0 INT's in an NFL game must have some talent at the position.  Now I agree it was only against the Falcons...but EJ will have the same opportunity against that same ATL defense on Dec. 1st so we'll see.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:44 AM

Glennon definitely has been the best rookie QB. By a pretty wide margin. He hasn't been making mistakes, and he's been making plays. No other rookie QB can say that.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:45 AM

Cosell is in the opinion business. Cowherd doesn't book these guys for nuance.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:46 AM

View Postzow2, on 21 November 2013 - 11:44 AM, said:

I always thought he was a pro looking QB in college.  He just had that look and arm strength.  Anyone who goes 20 for 23 (87%) with a 10 yd per pass avg, 2 TDs 0 INT's in an NFL game must have some talent at the position.  Now I agree it was only against the Falcons...but EJ will have the same opportunity against that same ATL defense on Dec. 1st so we'll see.
I was thinking that too... Geno looked really good against ATL too. EJ has played some of the league's toughest defenses in his game action - Carolina, Baltimore, Jets, Cleveland, Pitt. ATL will be a good barometer.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:46 AM

View PostYoloInTheBlo, on 21 November 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

I think Glennon is OK but I think he is somewhat of a statue. He has very limited mobility or escapability. I think where he was drafted was appropriate. I can see why Schiano wanted to get him in there. I did not think he was great in college, but I only saw him play a couple times. He could end up being the next Tom Brady - also no mobility.

The second sentence shows a distinct lack of research on Glennon. He's not a mobile guy as far as getting out of the pocket and running around, but he's got the best mobility of anybody WITHIN the pocket in this draft. By a long shot. He's got that pocket mobility you want to see from your pro QB. Steps up when the pressure comes from the outside, steps from side to side when the rush comes up the middle. I LOVED Glennon coming into the draft. When he was being talked about as a potential first rounder I wanted him badly. Then he kind of fell off the radar a bit, and he wasn't really in the conversation anymore.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:47 AM

View PostDStebb716, on 21 November 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

The second sentence shows a distinct lack of research on Glennon. He's not a mobile guy as far as getting out of the pocket and running around, but he's got the best mobility of anybody WITHIN the pocket in this draft. By a long shot. He's got that pocket mobility you want to see from your pro QB. Steps up when the pressure comes from the outside, steps from side to side when the rush comes up the middle. I LOVED Glennon coming into the draft. When he was being talked about as a potential first rounder I wanted him badly. Then he kind of fell off the radar a bit, and he wasn't really in the conversation anymore.
He had negative 124 yards rushing in college. I was referring to outside the pocket, and that comes right from his scouting reports, not something I made up. I think he fell off the radar because he had a very poor bowl game, although I did not see it and I am just going by what I read.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:48 AM

Let's see how good Glennon looks in a few weeks vs Mike Pettine's D

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:49 AM

Glennon's YPA is below 6.2. For a guy that has played from behind and plays almost all of his games in terrific (or controlled) weather conditions, that is not too impressive.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:52 AM

Glennon has been better than I expected and the top rookie to date. I think that his lack of athleticism and his inconsistency throwing the ball (see college) will catch up to him. He had the best "arm talent" in the draft IMO but I do not see him as a great QB.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:53 AM

View PostKirby Jackson, on 21 November 2013 - 11:52 AM, said:

Glennon has been better than I expected and the top rookie to date. I think that his lack of athleticism and his inconsistency throwing the ball (see college) will catch up to him. He had the best "arm talent" in the draft IMO but I do not see him as a great QB.
I also think that once teams get film on a guy, they can get exposed to some degree and they really need to stay ahead of that. Glennon has some nice weapons (esp. Vincent Jackson) which is a huge help to him as a rookie.

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 11:55 AM

View PostJohn from Hemet, on 21 November 2013 - 11:33 AM, said:

So he is supposed to change his tune now?  I dont expect him to.

Not hearing Maylock detract his statements about Cordy Glenn (which he really needs to do)
I remember Mayock giving Glenn a good amount of praise during the Browns game this year.