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#1 judman

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 09:14 AM

The Texans have made accusations against the pats*.

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Here is my TBD search results:
No results found for 'patriots spying texans'.

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#2 Mr. WEO

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 09:20 AM

Yeah, Brady and BB have to spy on a team on a 9 game losing streak.  Maybe poor tackling was the new "wrinkle" that the Texans had installed for the pats druing the week?

I don't recall P Manning claiming that the pats cheated after quickly erasing a 24 point lead last week.

Brady and Manning have seen every defense created by man.

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 09:22 AM

How can anyone take what this guy says as serious:

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 09:54 AM

he also said that they may have simply adjusted better than the texans did once the game started.

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 09:56 AM

View PostMr. WEO, on 02 December 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:

Brady and Manning have seen every defense created by man.
F---sakes, do you mean that the solution of a robot-made defense has been staring us in the face all this time, and we've simply never seized upon the idea?

Damn.

#6 Bangarang

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 09:58 AM

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There’s no way. We have not did it ever (sic) before and they ain’t never changed it ever before so it was just kind of fishy.

wat..

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 10:00 AM

They didn't have a single penalty called against them again, and they are playing a bunch of scrubs no one has ever heard of. You know what they say about cheaters: they always do it again.

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 12:03 PM

This makes sense because Belichik has never coached against Wade Phillips before and would have had no idea of his tendencies.

Sheesh.

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 12:09 PM

Shocking!

#10 NoSaint

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 12:10 PM

View PostDoc, on 02 December 2013 - 12:09 PM, said:

Shocking!

did you actually find antonio smith compelling in this?

did you also ignore him saying that the explanation could have easily just been that they are really good at making adjustments?

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 12:21 PM

The Texans defense has never been predicated upon fooling anybody or a reliance upon blitzing to create a pass rush. They are getting pushed around up front on 3rd downs with regularity and have no answers.

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 12:29 PM

Coming from such a well-spoken man, I'm forced to take these allegations seriously ....

"There’s no way. We have not did it ever (sic) before and they ain’t never changed it ever before so it was just kind of fishy.”

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 02:20 PM

View PostNoSaint, on 02 December 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

did you actually find antonio smith compelling in this?

did you also ignore him saying that the explanation could have easily just been that they are really good at making adjustments?
I'm not making a judgement either way, just saying that it wouldn't be a surprise.  Once a cheater...

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 05:13 PM

Why would the burden of proof be MORE difficult should the Texans want to make a case here?  Shouldn't it be easier?  Listen to what the Texans are saying…..sounds exactly like those victimized pre-2007 when the Pats were caught in the act.  

Read the Spygate book….their OC is a figurehead and doesn't call the plays…..google Ernie Adams…..he IS the system and he is still with the organization.

In 2007, as part of Spygate, it was revealed that Adams received tapes from a "third camera" that recorded opponents' defensive signals against league rules, and studied them to learn the signals. Belichick confirmed this was the case, but said that they were only a small part of the "mosaic" that were the Patriots' offensive game plans at the time.[4]

With the Patriots and throughout his career, Adams is known for keeping a low profile. Former Browns owner Art Modell notably quipped "I'll pay anyone here $10,000 if they can tell me what Ernie Adams does."

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 05:19 PM

View Postfilthymcnasty08, on 02 December 2013 - 05:13 PM, said:

Why would the burden of proof be MORE difficult should the Texans want to make a case here?  Shouldn't it be easier?  Listen to what the Texans are saying…..sounds exactly like those victimized pre-2007 when the Pats were caught in the act.  

Read the Spygate book….their OC is a figurehead and doesn't call the plays…..google Ernie Adams…..he IS the system and he is still with the organization.

In 2007, as part of Spygate, it was revealed that Adams received tapes from a "third camera" that recorded opponents' defensive signals against league rules, and studied them to learn the signals. Belichick confirmed this was the case, but said that they were only a small part of the "mosaic" that were the Patriots' offensive game plans at the time.[4]

With the Patriots and throughout his career, Adams is known for keeping a low profile. Former Browns owner Art Modell notably quipped "I'll pay anyone here $10,000 if they can tell me what Ernie Adams does."

now, if this was all original content from the texans, did adams instantly and amazingly sync it all up on the fly all by himself and based on his spy videos so they knew the play calls in advance

or did the great player on the field simply recognize a weakness and make a few plays while the texans in their tailspin missed a few?

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 05:26 PM

Love it when two guys on a 10 losses in a row team blame their poor performance on a cheating.  Brady read that defense like a comic book in the second half.  If they knew the D plays before the game they wouldn't have looked so bad in the first half.

I don't recall Manning blaming his team's second half collapse on "cheating".

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 05:41 PM

Its a proven fact that NE has cheated in the past so that works against them.

They received (and continue to receive) the brunt of jokes and signs and accusations that they had to cheat to win, on top of an NFL imposed penalty for doing so.   They got a black eye for doing it and I doubt very seriously they would risk enduring another scandal.

Seems to me that if they did it again, if they picked up defensive signals and were using them to communicate plays to their team during the game based on those signals, then they are setting themselves up for a MAJOR punishment by the league.  

In a playoff game against a winning opponent I wouldn't put it past them (although surprisingly a lot of people here are convinced they're innocent), but in a non-divisional game against a mediocre team it seems unlikely.  

Either way I can't wait for the Pats to get crushed in their first playoff game and go back to baseball town.  

I loathe them all.

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 06:25 PM

View PostWebster Guy, on 02 December 2013 - 05:41 PM, said:

Its a proven fact that NE has cheated in the past so that works against them.

They received (and continue to receive) the brunt of jokes and signs and accusations that they had to cheat to win, on top of an NFL imposed penalty for doing so.   They got a black eye for doing it and I doubt very seriously they would risk enduring another scandal.

Seems to me that if they did it again, if they picked up defensive signals and were using them to communicate plays to their team during the game based on those signals, then they are setting themselves up for a MAJOR punishment by the league.  

In a playoff game against a winning opponent I wouldn't put it past them (although surprisingly a lot of people here are convinced they're innocent), but in a non-divisional game against a mediocre team it seems unlikely.  

Either way I can't wait for the Pats to get crushed in their first playoff game and go back to baseball town.  

I loathe them all.

How?

#19 vincec

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 07:26 PM

Would honestly not surprise me if it were true.  I'll bet that insider information on what other teams are practicing is a lot more common than is generally known.

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 07:33 PM

View PostMr. WEO, on 02 December 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:

Love it when two guys on a 10 losses in a row team blame their poor performance on a cheating.  Brady read that defense like a comic book in the second half.  If they knew the D plays before the game they wouldn't have looked so bad in the first half.

I don't recall Manning blaming his team's second half collapse on "cheating".
And yet the fact remains that not a single penalty was called on NE the entire game.  Just not plausible.  No NFL team goes an entire game without committing penalties.  The refs just didn't call any against NE and they rarely do.