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#1 Jerry Jone's Toupee

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:29 PM

Do they have anything to gain with a win?

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:33 PM

View PostJerry Jone, on 23 December 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

Do they have anything to gain with a win?

If they win and Denver loses, they get the #1 seed.  If they lose and Cinci wins, they fall to the #3 seed.

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:33 PM

#1 seed if the broncos lose?

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:34 PM

View PostNoSaint, on 23 December 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

#1 seed if the broncos lose?

Yes, if NE wins and Denver loses, both would be 12-4, and NE has the head-to-head tiebreaker.

If NE loses and Cinci wins, both would be 11-5, and Cinci has the tie-breaker

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:36 PM

This seems definitive: http://www.cbssports...ios-for-week-17

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NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
New England can clinch a first-round bye with:
1) NE win or tie
2) CIN loss or tie + IND loss or tie
New England can clinch home-field advantage throughout the AFC playoffs with:
1) NE win + DEN loss

A win and they are 1 of the top 2 seeds, get a bye.

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:37 PM

"Pats's" o_O

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:43 PM

Must win game, they need to win to secure a bye in the first round, that is huge.

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:45 PM

Wonder how they hold up against Cinci and Indy in tie breakers specifically because if Indy and Cinci both win and NE loses, they all have the same record, and they would have all won their division. So the question would be, if That happens, could NE lose all home playoff games against Den, Indy, and Cinci? That would be a tough road schedule for them.

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:49 PM

View Postmrags, on 23 December 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

Wonder how they hold up against Cinci and Indy in tie breakers specifically because if Indy and Cinci both win and NE loses, they all have the same record, and they would have all won their division. So the question would be, if That happens, could NE lose all home playoff games against Den, Indy, and Cinci? That would be a tough road schedule for them.

They lose the tie-breaker to both Indy (Divisional record) and Cinci (head-to-head)

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:51 PM

View Postthebandit27, on 23 December 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:



They lose the tie-breaker to both Indy (Divisional record) and Cinci (head-to-head)
well, that sucks. Thanks for doing that math. I wasn't going to go far enough to figure it out.

Would still be nice to screw them out of a bye and home field in Denver.

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 01:53 PM

View Postmrags, on 23 December 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

well, that sucks. Thanks for doing that math. I wasn't going to go far enough to figure it out.

Would still be nice to screw them out of a bye and home field in Denver.

I'm confused...if NE loses and the others all win, NE finished 4th overall, and would have to travel to play any of Indy, Cinci, or Denver...why does that suck?

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 02:01 PM

View Postthebandit27, on 23 December 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:



I'm confused...if NE loses and the others all win, NE finished 4th overall, and would have to travel to play any of Indy, Cinci, or Denver...why does that suck?
oh. I read it wrong. I thought you were saying that NE has the tiebreakers over Indy and Cinci. That's awesome then. Couldn't be any better than beating up Marsha next week and eliminating them from having almost any shot at home playoff games.

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 02:21 PM

I want it to mean a lot and I want the Bils to go in there and thrash them anyway!  I want them to beat the **** out of Brady when the game has significant meaning.  

Time to send a message.

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 02:31 PM

View PostMike in Syracuse, on 23 December 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

I want it to mean a lot and I want the Bils to go in there and thrash them anyway!  I want them to beat the **** out of Brady when the game has significant meaning.  

Time to send a message.

:thumbsup:  I am not confident they're there yet, but I would love to see it happen!

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 02:35 PM

Definitely. A loss likely costs them a bye.

Mr. Belichick is going to whip our tush yet again

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 02:37 PM

View Postthebandit27, on 23 December 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:



They lose the tie-breaker to both Indy (Divisional record) and Cinci (head-to-head)

in a 3 way tie doesnt it go to conference record or something? i know the tie scenarios are different for 2 vs 3 but i dont recall the 3

View Postmrags, on 23 December 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

oh. I read it wrong. I thought you were saying that NE has the tiebreakers over Indy and Cinci. That's awesome then. Couldn't be any better than beating up Marsha next week and eliminating them from having almost any shot at home playoff games.

division winners automatically get one. but from there itd be on the road unless they met the other wildcard in the AFCCG

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 02:41 PM

Oh they care. They care very much. Tom Brady takes great delight in defeating the Bills. It has come to my attention that Brady himself has a profile & posts on this very site because he takes such great delight in our anguish.

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 02:43 PM

View PostMike in Syracuse, on 23 December 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

I want it to mean a lot and I want the Bils to go in there and thrash them anyway!  I want them to beat the **** out of Brady when the game has significant meaning.  

Time to send a message.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. On the other hand, every time the Bills have had a chance to "send a message" in the past decade, they've fallen flat on their collective faces.

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 02:48 PM

They very much do.

The question is... do the Bills care?

We'll find out. :)

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 03:25 PM

View PostDorkington, on 23 December 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

They very much do.

The question is... do the Bills care?

We'll find out. :)

I get the feeling they do.  They just beat a team with everything to play for.  Knocked their starting QB out of the game, and generally pushed them all over the field.  So I think they will bring it.  The only problem I could see is that they will be so keyed up that they get sloppy, which Brady will exploit into a blowout.  So hopefully they'll play heads-up, clog Marsha's passing lanes, and squeak one out.