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#1 Alaska Darin

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 05:06 AM

I closed the other thread because it's starting to affect board performance.

#2 B-Man

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 08:34 AM

The "AFFORDABLE CARE" Act thread was causing problems ?

How apropos.



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 09:12 AM

So the website is fixed now right?

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 09:54 AM

Obama love us long time?

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 09:54 AM

I closed the other thread because it's starting to affect board performance.


Yet more changes by executive fiat...

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 10:00 AM

So the website is fixed now right?


Sorta. One of the carriers that I work with has now created a portal to work in conjunction with Healthcare.gov And the last few applications that I have submitted from my client initially showed they were going to get the subsidy (which they most likely still will), and in order to process the application, after we go through the gov. website to determine subsidy eligibility, we are to send them an email for them to do an E signature and provide payment information.

That email, which actually comes from the carrier, states the subsidy that they will be receiving, so once they do one of those signatures, everything has appeared to be fine, however on the very last portion where they are to place their payment information, the price doesn't reflect the subsidy. So naturally, I called up the carrier and after 4 hours of waiting on the phone, there is no record of them receiving that subsidy.

So there are still kinks in the system.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 10:10 AM

Obama love us long time?


Soul Brother to wide for the Boom Boom

#8 DC Tom

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 10:12 AM

Sorta. One of the carriers that I work with has now created a portal to work in conjunction with Healthcare.gov And the last few applications that I have submitted from my client initially showed they were going to get the subsidy (which they most likely still will), and in order to process the application, after we go through the gov. website to determine subsidy eligibility, we are to send them an email for them to do an E signature and provide payment information.

That email, which actually comes from the carrier, states the subsidy that they will be receiving, so once they do one of those signatures, everything has appeared to be fine, however on the very last portion where they are to place their payment information, the price doesn't reflect the subsidy. So naturally, I called up the carrier and after 4 hours of waiting on the phone, there is no record of them receiving that subsidy.

So there are still kinks in the system.


Only the federal government could come up with a system so convoluted, !@#$ up the implementation, and call it a success.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 10:16 AM

Only the federal government could come up with a system so convoluted, !@#$ up the implementation, and call it a success.


The beautiful part about working for the federal government is even the people at the top can change the definition of success so they can claim success.

http://youtu.be/IqcKbl-oIMM

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 10:17 AM

Sorta. One of the carriers that I work with has now created a portal to work in conjunction with Healthcare.gov And the last few applications that I have submitted from my client initially showed they were going to get the subsidy (which they most likely still will), and in order to process the application, after we go through the gov. website to determine subsidy eligibility, we are to send them an email for them to do an E signature and provide payment information.

That email, which actually comes from the carrier, states the subsidy that they will be receiving, so once they do one of those signatures, everything has appeared to be fine, however on the very last portion where they are to place their payment information, the price doesn't reflect the subsidy. So naturally, I called up the carrier and after 4 hours of waiting on the phone, there is no record of them receiving that subsidy.

So there are still kinks in the system.

j didn't mean that boondoggle. I meant somewhere that can actually benefit citizens of this country. This site. Is it fixed?

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 10:19 AM

The beautiful part about working for the federal government is even the people at the top can change the definition of success so they can claim success.

http://youtu.be/IqcKbl-oIMM


You're not even joking. I've been on plenty of projects where the initial project requirements were changed after project completion to match what was implemented, so managers could show complete success. Worked in one place where all documentation was considered "draft" (including meeting minutes) because commitment to anything would risk failure.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 10:21 AM

Only the federal government could come up with a system so convoluted, !@#$ up the implementation, and call it a success.


To be fair it was convulted and a mess since managed care and TPA Payment was introduced into healthcare, the ACA just doubled down on it.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 12:41 PM

j didn't mean that boondoggle. I meant somewhere that can actually benefit citizens of this country. This site. Is it fixed?


I'm not following you

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 12:45 PM

Yet more changes by executive fiat...

I guess he can do whatever he wants. Apparently he's a Constitutional Lawyer. Somehow doubt it. No regard for separation of powers. This and the way this thing was jammed through it seems like we are a banana republic.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 12:48 PM

If you guys don't start improving on these lame posts, this thread will also be shut down due to performance issues.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:30 PM

If you guys don't start improving on these lame posts, this thread will also be shut down due to performance issues.


Obamacare allows these guys to fix all the performance issues they should have.


Except for lack of skill.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:56 PM

If you guys don't start improving on these lame posts, this thread will also be shut down due to performance issues.

I had the misfortune of having to spend 24 hours at Kaiser this past weekend. As always, I couldn't have been treated better. Nurses, doctors and everyone else very personable and attentive. Almost like the want you to come back to them for any medical. I'm afraid this will eventually come to a end as socialism replaces Capitialism in the process.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 03:39 PM

I had the misfortune of having to spend 24 hours at Kaiser this past weekend. As always, I couldn't have been treated better. Nurses, doctors and everyone else very personable and attentive. Almost like the want you to come back to them for any medical. I'm afraid this will eventually come to a end as socialism replaces Capitialism in the process.


why would a national self contained managed care company go away?

Personally, KP does a great job at being efficient and cost effective for less than serious issues, but it would not be my provider of choice. I have a ton of KP subscribers who come here self pay for Spine Issues, Cancer TX, and other specialties like Rheum and Neuro- althought KP will autorize out of network work-ups if they don't have an expert in the particular condition.

I think you will see more Kaiser model copycats on the local and regional level. We will be offering insurance coverage that is adminstered by the hospital, and we have acquired locations in Fort Collins, Colorado Springs and soon the mountains to help accomodate the Front Range in Colorado.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 07:04 PM

I'm not following you

I was joking about how this site is the one now working better with the ACA now working.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 09:34 PM

Thank "Dante" for this. He had started a new thread. I'm posting it here to show that when you let "The Law of Large Numbers" do its job, it works.

http://washingtonexa...article/2541670

New Obamacare health insurance enrollees may feel a pang of envy when they eye the coverage plans offered by Walmart to its employees.

For many years, the giant discount retailer has been the target ofunions and liberal activists who have harshly criticized the company'shealth care plans, calling them “notorious for failing to provide health benefits” and "substandard.”

But a Washington Examiner comparison of the two health insurance programs found that Walmart's plan is more affordable and provides significantly better access to high-quality medical care than Obamacare.

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Click here to see an infographic comparing Obamacare's health insurance premiums to Walmart's

Independent insurance agents affiliated with the National Association of Health Underwriters and health policy experts compared the two at the request of the Examiner.

Walmart furnished employee benefit information to theExaminer. Neither Obamacare advocate Families USA nor the United Food and Commercial Workers, which backs anti-Walmart campaigns, responded to Examiner requests for comment.

Walmart offers its employees two standard plans, a Health Reimbursement Account and an alternative it calls "HRA High" that costs more out of employees' pockets but has lower deductibles. Blue Cross Blue Shield manages both plans nationally.

Also offered is a Health Savings Account plan that includes high deductibles but allows tax-free dollars to be used for coverage.

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Click here to see an infographic comparing Obamacare's health access to Walmart's

For a monthly premium as low as roughly $40, an individual who is a Walmart HRA plan enrollee can obtain full-service coverage through a Blue Cross Blue Shield preferred provider organization. A family can get coverage for about $160 per month.