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#1 Kipers Hair

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:37 AM

If Sammy Watkins is there at 4, the Bills will trade their 1st, 2nd and Stevie Johnson to Cleveland for the rights to take Sammy Watkins.  Something could change, but as of today, this is on the table...Not sure this makes us better, but they see something in Sammy and envision a long term relationship with EJ and him.  

If Sammy is not there, they are more than happy with Matthews or Ebron at 9.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:40 AM

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Need a go-to receiver and can address OT later. Coming away with both will help the young quarterback immeasurably.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:42 AM

Maybe I'm ignorant.. but what does Sammy Watkins offer that Robert Woods doesn't?

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:42 AM

Um....

Why would the Browns want SJ when they could just draft Watkins for less than half his salary?

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:43 AM

This seems like way too much to give up to move up 5 spots.

View PostDorkington, on 30 April 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:

Maybe I'm ignorant.. but what does Sammy Watkins offer that Robert Woods doesn't?
He is sick on screens. But we don't run them.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:45 AM

View PostCanadian Bills Fan, on 30 April 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:

Um....

Why would the Browns want SJ when they could just draft Watkins for less than half his salary?

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Exactly, they could have their pick of WR at #4 for a rookies salary, but they fleece the Bills?

Nice proviso btw "Something could change..." gotta give yourself an out, when/if your wrong.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:45 AM

View PostYoloinOhio, on 30 April 2014 - 09:43 AM, said:

This seems like way too much to give up to move up 5 spots.

He is sick on screens. But we don't run them.

Yup... if we ran them properly, CJ would have had a much better year last year. And Goodwin, probably

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:46 AM

View PostCanadian Bills Fan, on 30 April 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:

Um....

Why would the Browns want SJ when they could just draft Watkins for less than half his salary?

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Supposing they want a QB they believe they can get at 9, they get a proven WR to play opposite Josh Gordon, get their QB, and have an extra pick early in the 2nd, all for moving back 5 spots.

Edited by Rob's House, 30 April 2014 - 09:47 AM.


#9 Kipers Hair

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:47 AM

View PostCanadian Bills Fan, on 30 April 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:

Um....

Why would the Browns want SJ when they could just draft Watkins for less than half his salary?

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the only thing I can figure is that they (browns) can take Carr at 9 and feel better about it while also getting a capable Y receiver.  Also, if they draft Sammy, your going to max pay for Josh Gordon and Sammy?  Unlikely - works for 4 years, then one will leave...

#10 B-Man

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:48 AM

View PostRob, on 30 April 2014 - 09:46 AM, said:

Supposing they want a QB they believe they can get at 9, they get a proven WR to play opposite Josh Gordon, get their QB, and have an extra pick early in the 2nd, all for moving back 5 spots.
Exactly.

Actually a good deal for them.

Carr probably at nine and a deep talented wide reciever class in the second.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:49 AM

View PostKipers Hair, on 30 April 2014 - 09:37 AM, said:

If Sammy Watkins is there at 4, the Bills will trade their 1st, 2nd and Stevie Johnson to Cleveland for the rights to take Sammy Watkins.  Something could change, but as of today, this is on the table...Not sure this makes us better, but they see something in Sammy and envision a long term relationship with EJ and him.  

If Sammy is not there, they are more than happy with Matthews or Ebron at 9.

If true I would obviously welcome Watkins, but I'll also go on record against this deal because giving up a 2nd Round pick in this Draft is dumb, stupid, ill-advised, and...did I say dumb yet?

The deepest Draft in recent memory and we are going to give up #41? Ugh...I HATE that idea...Hate, hate, hate it... :thumbdown:

#12 Kipers Hair

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:50 AM

View PostWayne Cubed, on 30 April 2014 - 09:45 AM, said:



Exactly, they could have their pick of WR at #4 for a rookies salary, but they fleece the Bills?

Nice proviso btw "Something could change..." gotta give yourself an out, when/if your wrong.
only reason for the caveat is we are still a week out and someone else might offer the Browns better.  Too much time this year...will cement a final call the day of, but have heard too much about this (from people in Cleveland by the way) to ignore it...

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:50 AM

I hope not.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:51 AM

View PostKipers Hair, on 30 April 2014 - 09:37 AM, said:

If Sammy Watkins is there at 4, the Bills will trade their 1st, 2nd and Stevie Johnson to Cleveland for the rights to take Sammy Watkins.  Something could change, but as of today, this is on the table...Not sure this makes us better, but they see something in Sammy and envision a long term relationship with EJ and him.  

If Sammy is not there, they are more than happy with Matthews or Ebron at 9.

What are these sources  you speak of ?

Also, I think it is too much to give up for a WR considering we are more than one player away from a deep run at the playoffs.

Edited by Fan in Chicago, 30 April 2014 - 09:52 AM.


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:51 AM

View PostKipers Hair, on 30 April 2014 - 09:50 AM, said:

only reason for the caveat is we are still a week out and someone else might offer the Browns better.  Too much time this year...will cement a final call the day of, but have heard too much about this (from people in Cleveland by the way) to ignore it...

Just to throw my hat in the ring...not saying you haven't heard what you say; just saying I've heard different...

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:53 AM

View PostFan in Chicago, on 30 April 2014 - 09:51 AM, said:

What are these sources  you speak of ?

Also, I think it is too much to give up for a WR considering we are more than one player away from a deep run at the playoffs.
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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:54 AM

View Postthebandit27, on 30 April 2014 - 09:51 AM, said:

Just to throw my hat in the ring...not saying you haven't heard what you say; just saying I've heard different...

What have you heard Bandit?


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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:54 AM

If this actually happens, I'll be reading KH's posts very carefully in the future.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:54 AM

I'm against trading UP for anyone....BUT, if they DO trade up, Watkins would be guy IMO to do it for....

Having said that, I would prefer for the BILLS to trade DOWN and get more picks in a deep Draft and solidify OT, LB and TE, in addition to getting a playmaking WR, that is a deep position this year so you could arguably get a good one in the 4th...IF the BILLS trade SJ, that might move the desire to Draft a top-flight WR to the 1st round, but you can do that at 9 or certainly at 41 with the depth of this Draft...

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:55 AM

View PostKipers Hair, on 30 April 2014 - 09:37 AM, said:

If Sammy Watkins is there at 4, the Bills will trade their 1st, 2nd and Stevie Johnson to Cleveland for the rights to take Sammy Watkins.  Something could change, but as of today, this is on the table...Not sure this makes us better, but they see something in Sammy and envision a long term relationship with EJ and him.  

If Sammy is not there, they are more than happy with Matthews or Ebron at 9.
Where is this info from, not questioning it, just curious?