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#1 Tintonfallsbillsfan

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:47 AM

With a few days left the following scenerio seems probable imo, the recent Martin and Beckham chatter to me is an indicator that this scenerio is heard by the pundits
3 tackles
2 pass rushers
2 wideouts
1 qb
gone by the 9th pick
Obviously this is not the ideal situation
Takig defense out of the equation
this leaves
Beckham
Martin
Ebron
For me it is Beckham .  Few thoughts. I agree with what Joe b has been saying the last few days. Taking a wideout that is not potentially elite doesn't make much sense. They have a good group of Wideouts on the roster they really need a number 1

I pass on Ebron the drop rate to me is a killer , let me take the Nd guy or Jenkins in round 2   next you grab your tackle weather it is Fleming or Mewhort there seems to be enough talent that a solid right tackle should remain at pick 71

Another functional d end is needed so if Chichton is the round pick I would be fine with that as well

Late round running back

To me it is odd , for 6 months all the names and scenerios that were discused and at the hour approaches it may come down to two players who were rarely thought of going that high .  That said I would be ok with either

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 10:06 AM

I think I would be really pissed about Beckham at 9.  IMO, there are as good or better WR's who will be around in the 2nd-3rd if they really want one.  Jordan Matthews, Allen Robinson, and Donte Moncrief come to mind.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 10:18 AM

View PostJohnny Hammersticks, on 03 May 2014 - 10:06 AM, said:

I think I would be really pissed about Beckham at 9.  IMO, there are as good or better WR's who will be around in the 2nd-3rd if they really want one.  Jordan Matthews, Allen Robinson, and Donte Moncrief come to mind.

Pretty much my sentiment...

If the Bills take Beckham, even in a trade down, my TV better duck! ;)

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 10:20 AM

IMO - I know it's you opinion you just made a statement.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 10:23 AM

View PostTintonfallsbillsfan, on 03 May 2014 - 09:47 AM, said:

With a few days left the following scenerio seems probable imo, the recent Martin and Beckham chatter to me is an indicator that this scenerio is heard by the pundits
3 tackles
2 pass rushers
2 wideouts
1 qb
gone by the 9th pick

Boy do I hope this is wrong. That would leave no talent worthy of a #9 pick at any position of need. I could only hope for a trade down offer. way to ruin my weekend!

Edited by simpleman, 03 May 2014 - 10:24 AM.


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 11:00 AM

I hope the 3-2-2-1 is wrong too.  But, it could happen.  If it happens we need to take Ebron or trade down.  I strongly prefer to trade down at that point.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 11:14 AM

I thought you were talking about the 3-2-1 smoking ribs method! Go Bills.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 11:23 AM

Maybe they trade with Oakland.  Then your 3-2-2-1 scenario doesn't even matter.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 11:36 AM

View PostSherrif John Brown, on 03 May 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

I thought you were talking about the 3-2-1 smoking ribs method! Go Bills.

Me too! Lol.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 11:38 AM

I think QB hungry teams at the top will pick QB or someone trades up after the first one comes of the board.  Manziel and Bortles should be gone in the top 8. We'll see Thursday!
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Posted 03 May 2014 - 12:16 PM

I think 2-2-2-2 is the worst case scenario.  Can't see Bills taking Lewan who seems strictly an LT.  If Bortles or Manziel are available at #9 and Bills still have pick, I'd hope Bills have standing trade with Houston or someone else.  If the top 6 plus Manziel and Bortles are gone, don't see anyone available at #9 that teams would trade up for.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 12:16 PM

Beckham is a good player - you have to deal with it and pick someone if this scenario happens and in that scenario, Beckham is as good as most any player left.  If you can trade down out of that spot, great - the next 5-7 guys are pretty equivalent in terms of talent - so that would make it hard to trade out of this pick.

I would consider defense or even Zach Martin in this scenario, but Beckham wouldn't be a big stretch there.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 12:23 PM

None of the above. Trade up in the top 4 (prefer #1) and get an impact player or trade down. Past the top 8 or so the talent level is the same through the 2nd round

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 12:32 PM

2 tackles
1 qb
1 WR
Mack and Clowney
1 db
1 DL

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 01:31 PM

then somebody is going to want the #2 QB or the #1 CB or the #1 DT or the #1 TE or the #1 safety or the #2 LB and it is all good for the Bills with a trade down.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 02:12 PM

View Postsimpleman, on 03 May 2014 - 10:23 AM, said:

Boy do I hope this is wrong. That would leave no talent worthy of a #9 pick at any position of need. I could only hope for a trade down offer. way to ruin my weekend!
This could potentially suck. The first Bills pick has me jittery this year. I sure hope someone really wants some QBs before or at 9

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 03:33 PM

No player in this draft is single-handedly going to change the fortunes of the Bills (at least that will be available at 9).  Without a costly trade up, the Bills will be picking from a pretty deep 2nd tier of players.  

It would be very nice if Mike Evans or Jake Mathews or even Lewan were available at the Bills' pick, but if not they can select from WR Beckham or Lee, OT Zack Martin, DT Aaron Donald, LB/DE Anthony Barr, LB Moseley, their pick of CBs or S or (not my favorite) TE Eric Ebron.  

All of these are good prospects, just a notch below the true top tier of Clowney, Watkins, Mack, Robinson, Mathews and Evans.  Depending on the Bills' evaluation of these prospects, they might unfortunately have to go with a defender even though they need to help the offense.  Still, a top defender to further strengthen the defense is nothing to be depressed about.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 07:48 PM

View Postmaryland-bills-fan, on 03 May 2014 - 01:31 PM, said:

then somebody is going to want the #2 QB or the #1 CB or the #1 DT or the #1 TE or the #1 safety or the #2 LB and it is all good for the Bills with a trade down.

Maybe so if they do not offer what Whaley thinks is sufficient then ... I have recently come surround to this guy... I would want Zach Martin OT ND.

Take his teammate, Triy Nikolas TE or Cody Lattimore WR at 41.  CB, LB or DE at in the third.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 08:19 PM

...and a partridge in a pear tree.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 08:19 PM

View PostTintonfallsbillsfan, on 03 May 2014 - 09:47 AM, said:

With a few days left the following scenerio seems probable imo, the recent Martin and Beckham chatter to me is an indicator that this scenerio is heard by the pundits
3 tackles
2 pass rushers
2 wideouts
1 qb
gone by the 9th pick
Obviously this is not the ideal situation
Takig defense out of the equation
this leaves
Beckham
Martin
Ebron
For me it is Beckham .  Few thoughts. I agree with what Joe b has been saying the last few days. Taking a wideout that is not potentially elite doesn't make much sense. They have a good group of Wideouts on the roster they really need a number 1

I pass on Ebron the drop rate to me is a killer , let me take the Nd guy or Jenkins in round 2   next you grab your tackle weather it is Fleming or Mewhort there seems to be enough talent that a solid right tackle should remain at pick 71

Another functional d end is needed so if Chichton is the round pick I would be fine with that as well

Late round running back

To me it is odd , for 6 months all the names and scenerios that were discused and at the hour approaches it may come down to two players who were rarely thought of going that high .  That said I would be ok with either

Unfortunately, I think you're correct. If this happens, I say take Ebron, he seems to have the most upside, and I don't think there is that much separation between the 2nd tier OT and the top 3—so get one in RD 2. And, not sure Beckham is worthy at 9. Thus, either Ebron or one of the top LB or DE available.