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#1 Beerball

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 06:16 AM

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 06:29 AM

It's a shame that the Ralph won't have a team regularly playing in it within a decade. It's actually starting to look nice with all the work they are putting into it.

Edited by Fingon, 22 May 2014 - 06:29 AM.


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 06:34 AM

Thanks for posting that. The changes look great. Long way to go to be completed on time.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 07:27 AM

Yeah, looks great, but what a mess it'll be if not finished in time.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 07:39 AM

I know it looks like a mess now, but honestly they look pretty darn far along.  No question they'll be done by mid-July even if weather conditions are horrible throughout the summer (in which case they'd simply bring more crews on site).

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 07:48 AM

whats with the black?

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 08:03 AM

Can't help thinking this is such folly. Why bother with all this expense and upgrade if the League is mandating a new venue. This seems so foolish

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 08:04 AM

View PostChandler#81, on 22 May 2014 - 08:03 AM, said:

Can't help thinking this is such folly. Why bother with all this expense and upgrade if the League is mandating a new venue. This seems so foolish

Because they are still going to play there for at least 6 more years

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 08:09 AM

View PostChandler#81, on 22 May 2014 - 08:03 AM, said:

Can't help thinking this is such folly. Why bother with all this expense and upgrade if the League is mandating a new venue. This seems so foolish

Gotta get through the lease.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 08:32 AM

View Posteball, on 22 May 2014 - 08:09 AM, said:



Gotta get through the lease.
Well, sure, I get that. But it's still a concrete relic from a bygone era. All the expensive lipstick in the world doesn't disguise this fact. I just remember all the serious bitching from the late '60's/early '70's about the ridiculous cost of Rich Stadium and how economics alone thwarted a dome back then. These upgrades trump the initial cost (pun) for what amounts to possibly no more than 48 games/hours of use through the next 6 years.. Nice? Absolutely. Just ridiculous, IMO.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 08:48 AM

View PostChandler#81, on 22 May 2014 - 08:32 AM, said:

Well, sure, I get that. But it's still a concrete relic from a bygone era. All the expensive lipstick in the world doesn't disguise this fact. I just remember all the serious bitching from the late '60's/early '70's about the ridiculous cost of Rich Stadium and how economics alone thwarted a dome back then. These upgrades trump the initial cost (pun) for what amounts to possibly no more than 48 games/hours of use through the next 6 years.. Nice? Absolutely. Just ridiculous, IMO.
Hindsight though. Would we be having this conversation if Ralph didn't pass?

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 08:54 AM

Also don't get the black.  Have to wait I guess to see the completed paint job.  Not sure "monumental" would be the first thing to pop into my head to describe the new stairs - but any change for the positive is good.  Looking forward to more bathrooms more than anything...

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 09:26 AM

View PostMay Day 10, on 22 May 2014 - 07:48 AM, said:

whats with the black?

I mean, it'll look sharp...but DAMN...now THAT'S a change.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 09:33 AM

View PostChandler#81, on 22 May 2014 - 08:03 AM, said:

Can't help thinking this is such folly. Why bother with all this expense and upgrade if the League is mandating a new venue. This seems so foolish

I really don't think "the league" is "mandating" anything. The Gingerhammer made comments in favor of a new stadium. He works for all the owners collectively. Owners will always be in favor of new stadiums. I really don't think a retrofit is off the table. Yet. But we've got a lot to get through before it's worth being concerned about that.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 09:39 AM

I also don't like the black but I guess I'll just have to see it when it's finished. I'm thinking the black we see now looks like a lot but the amounts of blue, red, and white that'll be in there are going to drown it out a little.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 09:41 AM

I'm sure the black is just a base for something else. I am not a structural engineer, but I would think black paint would soak up too much heat and possibly do damage to the structure that already goes through enough harsh elements in the wintertime.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 09:48 AM

View Postjimmyo, on 22 May 2014 - 09:41 AM, said:

I'm sure the black is just a base for something else. I am not a structural engineer, but I would think black paint would soak up too much heat and possibly do damage to the structure that already goes through enough harsh elements in the wintertime.

...but you DID stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 09:52 AM

View Posteball, on 22 May 2014 - 09:48 AM, said:

...but you DID stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 10:28 AM

View PostChandler#81, on 22 May 2014 - 08:32 AM, said:

Well, sure, I get that. But it's still a concrete relic from a bygone era. All the expensive lipstick in the world doesn't disguise this fact. I just remember all the serious bitching from the late '60's/early '70's about the ridiculous cost of Rich Stadium and how economics alone thwarted a dome back then. These upgrades trump the initial cost (pun) for what amounts to possibly no more than 48 games/hours of use through the next 6 years.. Nice? Absolutely. Just ridiculous, IMO.

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 10:30 AM

View Postjimmyo, on 22 May 2014 - 09:33 AM, said:



I really don't think "the league" is "mandating" anything. The Gingerhammer made comments in favor of a new stadium. He works for all the owners collectively. Owners will always be in favor of new stadiums. I really don't think a retrofit is off the table. Yet. But we've got a lot to get through before it's worth being concerned about that.

A retrofit may not be officially off the table, but it's so far back-burner that it's not even on the stove anymore. Does a day go by where there's no media outlet reporting named League sources, NYS politicos or prospective new ownership NOT talking about a new stadium? Pay rolled committees are formed with this sole purpose in mind. Orchard Park is a nice community, but would ANYONE plan to go there, were it not for Bills games? Of course not. Buffalo city proper or Niagara Falls are the big cities in the area and they make the most sense for a new stadium being erected there. Personally, I never understood the Southtowns location, with the exception of egress, because there's NOTHING there. The Ralph is a wonderful football arena. The locale it's in is forgettable at best.