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Will Josh Gordon play this year, after all?


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#1 YoloinOhio

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 01:21 PM

He has hired the same lawyer Richard Sherman used to get his PED suspension reduced. His appeal comes at a great time - when goodell is under the gun for under-punishing ray rice for what appears to be a much worse offense. His case is below -
@ProFootballTalk: Josh Gordon's "A" bottle = 16 ng/ml.  "B" bottle = 13.6 ng/ml.  Limit = 15 ng/ml.  End result?  One-year ban.  http://t.co/t5fC2F1bNW

Edited by YoloinOhio, 29 July 2014 - 01:33 PM.


#2 Mark80

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 01:29 PM

Yeah, but Gordon is a repeat offender, wasn't Sherman a first timer?  I think that makes a big difference.  That coupled with his recent DUI arrest, I find it hard to believe that he'll play this year.  Maybe though, those test seem suspect if they can yield a passing and failing test with the same sample.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 01:32 PM

View PostYoloinOhio, on 29 July 2014 - 01:21 PM, said:

He has hired the same lawyer Richard Sherman used to get his PED suspension reduced. His appeal comes at a great time - when goodwill is under the gun for under-punishing ray rice for what appears to be a much worse offense. His case is below -
@ProFootballTalk: Josh Gordon's "A" bottle = 16 ng/ml.  "B" bottle = 13.6 ng/ml.  Limit = 15 ng/ml.  End result?  One-year ban.  http://t.co/t5fC2F1bNW

Seems like he really has a case, for failing the drug test. That's a really stupid way to test. If "A" is ok then no need to test "B" even if "B" is way over. But if "A" is over they test "B" and if it's under do nothing. Odd.

Not sure how his DWI would play into it though.

Edited by Wayne Cubed, 29 July 2014 - 01:32 PM.


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Posted 29 July 2014 - 01:47 PM

After reading the story on PFT, assuming that is the entire story, that is some serious BS if he is suspended for an entire season. Especially after the Ray Rice thing. I bet it gets reduced.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 02:19 PM

The DWI case I don't think plays into this hearing.  He hasn't been convicted.  He might have a good shot but man he has to keep his **** together.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 02:32 PM

I mean he should be suspended for being an idiot. But how you ban a guy for season because of weed when you let a woman beater get 2 games, it seems insane.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 02:41 PM

Apparently he is claiming it came from second hand smoke.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 02:43 PM

I think the bigger story is that NFLN just said that SF has 3 number 1 WR's.... Boldin, Crabtree, Stevie...

Funny how he's a number 2 on our team and goes to SF and becomes a number 1

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 02:44 PM

He's also arguing it was second hand smoke but this isn't really the court of law.  He passed 70 straight tests and then has a flawed test...his odds might be good.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 02:50 PM

View PostWayne Cubed, on 29 July 2014 - 01:32 PM, said:

Seems like he really has a case, for failing the drug test. That's a really stupid way to test. If "A" is ok then no need to test "B" even if "B" is way over. But if "A" is over they test "B" and if it's under do nothing. Odd.

Not sure how his DWI would play into it though.

The NFLPA disagrees.  They have no problem with it.  And the mandatory 1 year suspension they agreed to for stage 3 players.

I don't think this lawyer's "leaky cup" defense is going to save Gordon.  Given the looming DUI charge (the guy checked into rehab after that one), how does Goodell lower the suspension?

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 02:50 PM

It will be reduced to a 12 game suspension so he can come back in time to play the Bills in week 13!  I'm kidding of course...

This is absolutely ridiculous to me.  I do the drug screens for my agency and our policy is standard set at 50ng/ml with the confirm cutoff at 15ng/ml.  Both of these must be failed for it to count as a failure and we don't even have a union here!  How does the NFLPA let these idiotic rules stand?!

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 02:54 PM

View PostMr. WEO, on 29 July 2014 - 02:50 PM, said:

The NFLPA disagrees.  They have no problem with it.  And the mandatory 1 year suspension they agreed to for stage 3 players.

I don't think this lawyer's "leaky cup" defense is going to save Gordon.  Given the looming DUI charge (the guy checked into rehab after that one), how does Goodell lower the suspension?

They agreed with it or it was bargained by the owners? It's quite possible they don't agree with the cutoff and do have a problem with it, but in order to bargain other parts of their agreement they had to agree to this type of testing.

EDIT: And just because the NLPA agreed to it, doesn't mean it isn't a ridiculous test.

Edited by Wayne Cubed, 29 July 2014 - 02:56 PM.


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Posted 29 July 2014 - 02:57 PM

Hey Goodell - any chance we can get this figured out before my fantasy draft?

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 03:03 PM

View PostYoloinOhio, on 29 July 2014 - 02:57 PM, said:

Hey Goodell - any chance we can get this figured out before my fantasy draft?

Right??? My first is on Sunday... I will be taking him with my last pick... Who knows- it's better than a player I will drop before the season...

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 03:04 PM

View PostCountryCletus, on 29 July 2014 - 03:03 PM, said:


Right??? My first is on Sunday... I will be taking him with my last pick... Who knows- it's better than a player I will drop before the season...


Tell me more about your draft plans....

#16 CountryCletus

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 03:07 PM

When is our draft?

#17 BillsinChesterSprings

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 03:07 PM

I hope the sentence is reduced by a lot.  I actually have him in an auction keeper league where you can resign players to 1,3,5 years with roughly 10% - 13% raises each year for 3,5.  His salary was $1M last year, so I want keep him on a 5 year deal, but not if he is suspended.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 03:13 PM


Eye on Football@EyeOnNFL 58s

Browns WR Josh Gordon will reportedly argue that second-hand smoke cause his failed drug test. http://cbsprt.co/WLYBQJ


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Posted 29 July 2014 - 03:16 PM

Even IF somehow he gets away with the failed drug test, the DUI in Carolina is going to fetch him a ban at some point.

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 03:19 PM

View PostH2o, on 29 July 2014 - 03:16 PM, said:

Even IF somehow he gets away with the failed drug test, the DUI in Carolina is going to fetch him a ban at some point.

Marshawn Lynch would beg to differ... Somehow he still hasn't gone to trial for his.